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  • just a conservative girl 9:11 PM on 01/18/2014 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: 1st amendment, church and state, , president washington   

    The Proclamation Given Two Weeks After the Passage of the First Amendment – Still Want to Talk About the Separation of Church and State? 

    By the President of the United States of America, a Proclamation.

    Whereas it is the duty of all nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey His will, to be grateful for His benefits, and humbly to implore His protection and favor; and—Whereas both Houses of Congress have, by their joint committee, requested me “to recommend to the people of the United States a day of public thanksgiving and prayer, to be observed by acknowledging with grateful hearts the many and signal favors of Almighty God, especially by affording them an opportunity peaceably to establish a form of government for their safety and happiness:”

    Now, therefore, I do recommend and assign Thursday, the 26th day of November next, to be devoted by the people of these States to the service of that great and glorious Being who is the beneficent author of all the good that was, that is, or that will be; that we may then all unite in rendering unto Him our sincere and humble thanks for His kind care and protection of the people of this country previous to their becoming a nation; for the signal and manifold mercies and the favor, able interpositions of His providence in the course and conclusion of the late war; for the great degree of tranquillity, union, and plenty which we have since enjoyed; for the peaceable and rational manner in which we have been enabled to establish constitutions of government for our safety and happiness, and particularly the national one now lately instituted; for the civil and religious liberty with which we are blessed, and the means we have of acquiring and diffusing useful knowledge; and, in general, for all the great and various favors which He has been pleased to confer upon us.

    And also that we may then unite in most humbly offering our prayers and supplications to the great Lord and Ruler of Nations, and beseech Him to pardon our national and other trangressions; to enable us all, whether in public or private stations, to perform our several and relative duties properly and punctually; to render our National Government a blessing to all the people by constantly being a Government of wise, just, and constitutional laws, discreetly and faithfully executed and obeyed; to protect and guide all sovereigns and nations (especially such as have shown kindness to us), and to bless them with good governments, peace, and concord; to promote the knowledge and practice of true religion and virtue, and the increase of science among them and us; and, generally, to grant unto all mankind such a degree of temporal prosperity as He alone knows to be best.

    Given under my hand at the City of New York the third day of October in the year of our Lord 1789.

    It seems pretty clear to me that he never envisioned the “wall” between church and state that liberals hold so dear today.  This was requested of him by the House of Representatives less than 24 hours after the ratification of the 1st amendment.

  • just a conservative girl 12:15 PM on 05/06/2013 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: 1st amendment, , , tyndale publishing   

    Tyndale Publishing Will Not Be Forced to Go Against Religous Beliefs 

    Tyndale Publishing, one of the world’s largest publishers of Christian materials, will not be forced to offer birth control and abortifacients with its health insurance which are against their religious beliefs.

    The Obama administration has elected not to stand up in court and make the ludicrous claim that a publishing house that only publishes Christian materials and gives large portions of its profits to Christian causes does not qualify as a religious employer.

    Score one for the good guys.


  • just a conservative girl 10:24 PM on 03/23/2012 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: 1st amendment, ,   

    Quote of the Day – Star Parker Edition 

    “No more should my auto insurance cover your tune up, should my health insurance cover your sex life, not your Viagra, not your condoms, not your birth control devices, not your abortions.”

    Star Parker, Keynote Speaker at the Stand up for Religious Liberty Rally in Washington, DC.


    This is the statement that gave her the biggest applause line.  I was there today.  We got a very good turn out considering the HHS building is not in a convenient location when it comes to metro access or parking.  It is very close to the congressional buildings so it can difficult to get to on your lunch hour.

    We had people of all ages there today.  Babies to the Elderly.  I saw some pictures and it looks many other had rain.  We had a beautiful, warm, sunny day.


  • just a conservative girl 11:29 PM on 03/06/2012 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: 1st amendment, , freedom of religion, ,   

    Isn’t The Tea Party Standing Up for the Constitution? 

    As you may have figured out I am very active on social media.  I am on every presidential candidate’s email list, I get emails from all types of conservative groups, and I have twitter and facebook accounts as well.  I get all kinds of things sent to me about the conservative movement.  Many of which mention the constitution.  I have been doing reading and going to different events to learn more about the constitution.

    So I was very surprised today when I was told that The Tea Party Mission didn’t include the rally that is being held on March 23 to preserve religious freedom.  The posting I put up on this rally was removed and I was given a warning for breaking the “rules”.  Really?  I would like to know what exactly I have been doing for the past three years then.  Wasn’t the entire point of learning more about the constitution was to be able to elect officials that would actually follow it?

    I am in agreement that social issues are not necessarily the purview of The Tea Party, but how exactly do you separate an issue of the first amendment and The Tea Party?  The entire reason we are in the place that we find ourselves in now is because the federal government has been trampling all over our constitutional rights for several generations now.  The federal government has grown well beyond what the founders ever intended.  As such they involve themselves in things that are none of their business and are better left for the states and local governments to decide.  When they do this they waste more and more of our resources in terms of time and money as well as stripping our freedoms away; bit by bit.

    The Tea Party was also formed to let our government know that we were no longer going to stand and allow them to take more and more of our freedoms away.  Mandating to the church that they have to violate their consciences in order to provide free birth control is all about freedom.  It doesn’t matter what you personally feel about birth control and/or abortion because they are not the issue.  This is strictly a first amendment issue.  It is just being discussed in terms of birth control and women’s health.

    You need to ask yourselves if the government is allowed to take this protected right away from the church what is next?  If the Tea Party isn’t going to stand up and protect this then they may as well just fold up the tents and go home.  Because we are done.

    And your thoughts on the matter?

    • Don 12:45 AM on 03/07/2012 Permalink | Reply

      I agree just, you blew me away when you told me about a Tea Party member trying to censor you on this. Incredible.

      In support, I posted on this at Conservative Hideout 2.0


      • just a conservative girl 9:26 AM on 03/07/2012 Permalink | Reply


      • fuzislippers 10:14 AM on 03/07/2012 Permalink | Reply

        Agreed. I just tweeted it on the same grounds, to support JACG and the cause of freedom.

    • AHLondon 9:00 AM on 03/07/2012 Permalink | Reply

      I expect this kind of censoring when dealing with the left of center, but when it happens on our side, it unnerves me. It doesn’t happen often, but like you I point it out when it does. Gotta fight such Frummery.

      • just a conservative girl 9:29 AM on 03/07/2012 Permalink | Reply

        I don’t really look at it as censorship. There always have to be rules. My thing is that this person has bought into the left’s meme that this is about personal choice. It isn’t. It is about government forcing its will on the church in violation of freedom of religion. Take as much birth control as you want or don’t want. I could care less, what I do care about is the intrusion into church doctrine.

    • fuzislippers 10:13 AM on 03/07/2012 Permalink | Reply

      Well, I’m not sure where you posted this and were told the “rules,” but you know that there is no “Tea Party,” just a bunch of random citizens & groups with basic agreements on foundational principles. Well, mostly. Sounds like this one is a dud, I’d call them out on it, by name and let everyone know who they are. Anyone who thinks this is a “social issue” debate doesn’t have enough brain cells to make decisions about what is posted anywhere, anyway.

    • sweatyfederalist 10:36 PM on 03/07/2012 Permalink | Reply

      Not going to wade in on your local Tea Party controversy. The MSM likes to believe the Tea Party were a tightly organized cabal funded by the Koch brothers… as if.

      I do wish to quibble with you on a point you raised. You suggest that the freebie contraceptive issue “is strictly a first amendment issue.” It is actually a Tenth Amendment issue. The National Government has no more right to require contraceptive coverage for employees at the University of Notre Dame as it has to mandate Highmark BlueCross to cover chiropractic services, Ritalin or aromatherapy. Obamacare is not merely an affront to religious freedom; it is a breathtakingly vicious assault on the American constitution (i.e., the Tenth Amendment).


      The Sweaty Federalist

      • just a conservative girl 12:23 AM on 03/08/2012 Permalink | Reply

        I don’t disagree with what you are saying, but I am not discussing Obamacare. I am discussing only this woman forcing the mandates onto the church. The mandates that they are pushing onto everyone else is a different (and much worse) issue.

  • just a conservative girl 11:39 AM on 03/05/2012 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: 1st amendment, , , , , religious protections   

    Rush Changing the Narrative 

    There are many on the right who are very unhappy, to say the least, about Rush Limbaugh issuing an apology for calling Sandra Fluke a slut.  They shouldn’t be.  The anger should be directed at him using the word in the place.  Above and beyond how derogatory the word is towards women, it changed the conversation; and not in a good way.

    I understand what Rush was trying to do.  He was pointing out the irony of her claim.  But the truth is we know nothing about this woman’s sex life.  If you are thinking to yourself that you do, then when is the last time she performed a sexual act?  How many partners has she had in the past six months?  Is she heterosexual or homosexual?  Chances are you know none of the answers to these questions because she never discussed her sex life and what type of birth control (if any) that she uses.  She discusses the topic in a more generic conversation and talked about countless “others” who tell her their stories of woe.

    What Rush and everyone else needs to be concentrating on is the first amendment.  The government trying to dictate to a church what is and what isn’t protected by the constitution, not her sex life.  Seriously, are you all that interested in her sex life?  I am not.  I could care less what she does in her bedroom. As long as it done by consenting adults, it is none of my concern.  What is my concern is how she is trying to push her will and her view-point onto the Catholic Church and Georgetown University.  She chose that school for a reason.  She went there specifically to try to force them to change their policy on birth control.  She did this before Obamacare and the mandates were even an issue.  She has been working on this for almost three years.

    Look, birth control isn’t the issue.  I have used birth control in my life and I can guarantee you no one will be accusing me of being a slut.  Newsflash; not all conservative women are virgins when the get married and therefore use birth control.  Newsflash;, not all conservative women are looking to have large families; so they use birth control.  The issue is does the federal government have the right to force a religious institution to go against the doctrines and teachings of the church that has been around for thousands of years?  These church teachings have been in existence long before the U.S. was ever formed.

    The left set the trap and we conservatives walked right into it.  This isn’t about sex, it isn’t about birth control, it is about liberty.  We need to do ourselves a favor and stop talking about this woman’s sex life and deal with the fact that she is trying to push her will onto the rest of the country; regardless of the constitutional protections that are in place.  We need to stop playing their game.  They wanted to paint conservatives as a bunch of people who think anyone who uses birth control is some sort of sexual deviant who needs us to tell them how to live their lives and what drugs they can and cannot put into their bodies.  That is a battle we cannot, should not  and will not win.  Americans don’t want the right telling them how to live their lives anymore than they want left doing it.  What Americans want is their freedoms and liberties to be protected.  Our job is to tell them that they are being ebbed away by an over-reaching, ever more powerful federal government in the guise of discussion on birth control.  If we keep the discussion on birth control and Ms. Fluke’s sex life they don’t see that they are giving away their liberties willingly in exchange for a $9 pack of generic birth control pills.

    • fuzislippers 11:44 AM on 03/05/2012 Permalink | Reply

      Actually, if I’m angry at Rush for anything (and I’m not), it would be his being too stupid to leave the leftist trap alone. Instead of seeing what they were doing, he just charged in like an idiot and did what too many others are happy to do–and the left is in pure ecstasy about–talk about birth control, sex, and abortion.

      We were winning this battle on the Constitution, on the free exercise of religion, on the huge problem with government dictating to religious organizations, mandating that they go against their conscience.

      Let that sink in. We were winning that battle. Handily.

      Enter all the crazies talking about birth control, then the set up with Fluke, then Rush leaping into the trap. Now where are we? Where is religious freedom? Losing. Big.

      This is not, never was, and never will be about contraception–let’s stop playing into the left’s hands. The issue is freedom. Period. No ifs, no ands, and damn sure, no butts.

      • DemocratGuy 1:59 PM on 03/06/2012 Permalink | Reply

        Visitor from ObamaLand here, hope you don’t mind! I think Fuzi’s point was right, that the whole issue was a set-up–it just seems too perfectly timed with Santorum’s rise in the polls. Obama is definitely not above wedge-issue politics, hopey changey stuff notwithstanding.

        But, I want to press you, Fuzi, on one point. Is it really true that you’re not angry at the attitude Rush put on display? All the stuff about aspirins between the knees, I mean, that’s so unbelievably demeaning to a whole group of women at a religious institution. I’m not talking about the language or the words, but the sentiment. And then the idea that men should be compensated with sex videos? I mean, what sick mind would think of that in the first place, let alone believe that was funny, hilarious, absurd, ridiculous, or anything else but just sick? Isn’t it horribly offensive, no matter your stance on the policy question?

        • just a conservative girl 5:41 PM on 03/06/2012 Permalink | Reply

          I can’t speak for Fuzzi, but that is part of Rush’s shtick. The videos was about the notion that somehow she has a right to birth control. If I and every other tax payer now must pay for birth control then we should be getting something out of it. And yes, all of us will be paying for birth control whether we use or not, whether we agree with it or not. There is no such thing as birth control fairies that will be giving that out for free; regardless of President Obama says. The people who listen to him on a regular basis don’t look at it as demeaning. We just don’t. We think it is demeaning that we are being asked to pay for it.

          • DemocratGuy 10:40 AM on 03/07/2012 Permalink | Reply

            Thanks for letting my comment through moderation. And thanks, JACG, for your thoughtful reply! I realize it wasn’t fair of me to ask Fuzi (or you) to set aside the policy question, given its importance to you as a constitutional issue. In any case, I appreciate the time you’ve taken to answer my question. Great blog!

            • just a conservative girl 4:27 PM on 03/07/2012 Permalink | Reply

              You welcome back anytime since you seem to be willing to engage in real debate minus the name calling and rhetoric. You should now no longer go into moderation. Keep it civil and you won’t be deleted. We welcome all points of view.

        • fuzislippers 10:59 AM on 03/07/2012 Permalink | Reply

          Sorry, DemocratGuy, I only just saw this notification when your second one came through.

          Anyway, to address your delightfully civil comments/questions: heck, no, I’m not angry at Rush’s attitude or what he said. I’m a conservative. If I got upset every time some leftist “comedian,” pundit, talk show host, politician, or random troll called a woman a name (“slut” is actually one of the nicer terms I’ve heard from leftists), my head would have exploded in self-righteous indignation ages ago.

          I’m not in the least upset that a conservative stooped to that level, at least not beyond the obvious fact that it was beneath him (and as JACG points out, he’s a shock jock, it’s what he does—isn’t that Bill Maher’s excuse for calling Sarah Palin a “cunt” and David Letterman making jokes about Bristol Palin’s sex life?).

          Are you honestly upset that Limbaugh “demeaned” a “whole group of women” or are you upset that a CONSERVATIVE used the same tactics and language that leftists use against women on a daily basis? Something to think about. Now I don’t know you, and you seem nice enough, so maybe you do get outraged at all of the horrible things that are said about conservative women (the rape fantasies and death wishes are always fun). Maybe you do . . . . or maybe that’s “different”? Somehow.

          I think that one thing that might bridge the ideological gap is the following consideration of my conservative principles. Name calling is not nice, it’s rude, it’s ill-mannered. It’s not, however, anything more than that (which is why conservatives always graciously accept the (forced) apologies when they are made, which is all-too-rarely).

          If he thinks she’s a slut, so what? Is that really an indictment of everyone with a vagina? Of course not, but I used to be a leftist, so I get the whole group think thing and know that’s both an extension of the collectivist craziness that is the entire Marxist miindset and the knee-jerk reaction to any conservative daring to have a viewpoint. Tolerance, really, isn’t a strong suit on the left. Nor is forgiveness. But I guess that’s why it’s so hard for you to understand that I’m not in the least bit upset that Rush called Fluke a slut. It’s still a (relatively) free country.

          You’ll notice that I’m not talking about contraception because that is not what this is about (never was, never will be).

          • fuzislippers 11:18 AM on 03/07/2012 Permalink | Reply

            Oops, correction: I was never a leftist, but I was a liberal (or thought I was).

            • DemocratGuy 1:41 PM on 03/07/2012 Permalink | Reply

              Hi there, Fuzi! Since you asked, for the record, yes, I do get very annoyed and upset when conservative women are attacked this way, and I was thinking of the vicious, vile insults hurled at Sarah Palin by the likes of snide jerks like Bill Maher. I was also thinking about how frustrating it was to hear so few on “my side” speak out against such slime. In fact, I specifically clicked over to Potluck just to see how you folks dealt with a similar situation.

              Thanks to you, too, for the reply. Always great to get your perspective on things, and I appreciate you taking the time to listen to me natter on. –Mike

            • DemocratGuy 1:42 PM on 03/07/2012 Permalink | Reply

              Oh, and I should have said I laughed out loud re: the “my head would have exploded ages ago” comment. RIGHT ON!

    • A.Men 12:03 PM on 03/05/2012 Permalink | Reply

      Rush Limbaugh was 100% right about Fluck. Wake up!

      • just a conservative girl 12:09 PM on 03/05/2012 Permalink | Reply

        I think you need to wake up. Why are we talking about this women’s sex life instead of religious liberties then? We talk about her sex life it allows the left to cover up what they are trying to do. They then win.

    • SignPainterGuy 12:25 PM on 03/05/2012 Permalink | Reply

      Rush opened today`s show with an apology to us and acknowledgement that he`d sunk to the left`s level in using the word “slut”.

      Preach it, Fuzi ! ;-)

      • Sherry 9:09 AM on 03/10/2012 Permalink | Reply

        I struggle still, because Fluke 1) lied before Congress 2) knew she was lying and 3) if she was lying about something as basic as her age to make herself more sympathetic, what else was she possibly lying about?

        Yes there are people who need birth control for medical reasons, not social ones, just as there are men who need viagra for reasons other than pure pleasure. But you’re right, Rush derailed the dialogue with the distraction and as a result, she’s been elevated to the point that the media and left and even now the cowed right, won’t vet her testimony.

        We cannot know if any of the sob stories she told were true. She used her platform to pour out a story that demands people violate thier faith so she can act as she will, be it slutty or chaste. And now with Rush, many more people heard her testimony, and she has become a martyr for the left. She may not be what Rush called her, but she is something else, though perhaps only in such small things as one’s age by seven years, untruthful.

        • just a conservative girl 11:26 AM on 03/10/2012 Permalink | Reply

          Did she lie about her age or did the media assume that she was 23? I don’t think she said her age. The media ran with it. I agree she lied, but I don’t think it was about her age. I will have to listen again to find out. What she lied about was the costs of birth control in the DC area. I live here I know that birth control is dispensed like Pez here.

        • just a conservative girl 7:32 AM on 03/11/2012 Permalink | Reply

          She didn’t lie about her age. In her testimony she said she was a third year law student, but never told her age. She also said that she was an activist and named the organization she was ahead of. here is the link. Much of the media coverage of her testimony is not correct. Wow, what a shock that is. http://current.com/1mhv4kc

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