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  • just a conservative girl 2:17 PM on 12/13/2013 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: 9/11, , , , , santa claus, , st. nicholas   

    About Megyn Kelly and White Santa 

    I just love all this.  I really do.  Megyn Kelly had a panel discussion on blog post that was written by a black woman and her feelings of inadequacies as a child seeing a white Santa Claus.  Her tongue and cheek suggestion was that we now make Santa into a penguin so that no one else is forced to feel bad about themselves as she did as a child.

    This discussion, per the usual, turned into calls of “RAAAAACIST” and of course White Privilege.  I wonder how many actually watched the segment or just read what has been written about it?

    St. Nicholas was white.  St. Nicholas is what Santa Claus is based upon.  That isn’t up for debate.  It is history.  He was a historical figure.  The point of the segment was that just because something in history is uncomfortable, is that a good enough reason to change it?  Her answer is no, it isn’t.  She is right about that.

    Across human history there are many things that are uncomfortable.  The crusades, slavery, and the holocaust just to name three.  Do we get to change what happened because someone is uncomfortable with the history of it?  I am white of European descent.  I am only one generation away from it in fact.  I am only the third person in my family to be born in this country.  Now, I do I get to whitewash the history of European whites that held blacks in slavery just because I don’t like the fact that they did it?  No, I don’t.  That is our history.  The same way that blacks that come from African decent don’t get to whitewash the fact that many blacks on that continent made money on selling their fellow countrymen into bondage.  That is their history.

    I was reading an article not to long ago on the 9/11 museum that will be opening at The World Trade Center.  Some people didn’t want the hijackers mentioned at all, they wanted it to be about the victims only.  I say heck no.  We don’t get to decide for ourselves what that day was and what it was not.  19 men hijacked planes and killed 3,000 innocent people based solely upon their sick religious views.  That is what happened.  It doesn’t matter that some people may be uncomfortable with that pesky little fact.  Muslims have to deal with it.  Saudis have to deal with the fact that the majority of them came from that country.  It isn’t up for debate, or at least it shouldn’t be.

    She was making no statement on race.  She was talking about why do we, as a culture, want to change historical figures into a narrative that fits a more “modern, feel-good, politically correct” thing?  What right do we have to do that as a society?  It benefits no one to change our history.

    This has played out in bright colors this week with the death of Nelson Mandela.  I can’t think of another recent example that showcases what Ms. Kelly was saying.  Upon his death he was either characterized as a saint or the devil.  The truth is he contained elements of both.  His history does contain acts of violence and innocent people being killed due to those acts of violence.  That cannot be left out of the conversation about his life.  But the other side to that coin is that he left the violence behind him once he was out of imprisonment and tried to lead a country out of a government that was based on oppression, racism, and nothing short of tyranny.  Now I don’t agree with his socialist views of government, but I didn’t live that life in that time.  I am sitting in the cheap seats and it is real easy for me to say what I would and would not have done in his position, living in that country, as a person of color, in that time.  Freedom isn’t free.  We say that all the time in this country when it comes to conversations about our troops and America’s standing in the world.  I can think of no example of when a country that was under a tyrannical regime working towards more freedom for its citizens that didn’t involve bloodshed.  It isn’t pretty, but it is reality.  If there is one thing that makes me crazier than anything else, it is when people don’t want to deal with the realities at hand.  We don’t get to change our history simply because we don’t like it.  Unless of course you want to be intellectually dishonest and lazy.

    There was nothing racist about what Megyn Kelly said.  She wasn’t saying that black children can’t look to Santa Claus the same way white children do.  She wasn’t saying that Santa is only for the whites of the world.  She was saying St. Nicholas is a historical figure and nothing in the world is going to change that fact.  Deal with it.

     
    • danielwalldammit 11:53 AM on 12/15/2013 Permalink | Reply

      Are you sure St. Nicholas was white?

      • just a conservative girl 12:24 PM on 12/15/2013 Permalink | Reply

        Yes. He is a historical figure. He was greek.

        • danielwalldammit 12:29 PM on 12/15/2013 Permalink | Reply

          Yes, and Greeks were white? Is he portrayed as white in the iconography of the time?

          • just a conservative girl 5:01 PM on 12/15/2013 Permalink | Reply

            What race do you think Greeks are and were? I realize that our government has put boxes for all kinds of things these days, but that doesn’t mean they are true races.

            • danielwalldammit 5:55 PM on 12/15/2013 Permalink | Reply

              Lol true races? You are the one who has declared the issue indisputable. Feel free to demonstrate the man’s complexion with indisputable facts.

              • Jenny 6:23 PM on 12/15/2013 Permalink | Reply

                St Nicholas is a Catholic saint Daniel, and the legends of Santa Claus didn’t originate in Africa, the Middle East, Asia. As to your straw man arguments, like Aisha Harris’ they aren’t based on fact or evidence but out of a desire to criminalize, marginalize and erase white people/culture. Fact is, the ancient Greeks were white, and had blonde and brown hair. As to ancient Israelites, there were 5 tribes, including Canaanites, who had red hair and fair skin, and the Amorites, who included blondes with blue eyes. Crack open a text on ancient Egyptian history, and view the heiroglyphics. Read how the ancient Celts, a people with fair hair & skin, originated in the Middle East. I wouldn’t base any understanding of anything on the rantings of idiots like Farrakhan or Sharpton

                BTW, there are 3 races of humans, Caucasian, Mongoloid & Negroid.

                • danielwalldammit 2:16 AM on 12/16/2013 Permalink | Reply

                  Speaking of straw man arguments lol, and btw, there are no races of humans. But thank you for making it very clear that you are in fact quite literally a racist.

              • just a conservative girl 8:04 PM on 12/15/2013 Permalink | Reply

                Way to twist what I said. Is Hispanic a race? Is Middle Eastern a race? No, they are not. It something that becomes more and more popular as time goes by to divide people. Go tell a Cuban that they are the same as someone from Spain, or Mexico. You will get an earful. Yet today they are lumped together as a “race”, when the reality is that people from the “Hispanic” race come in a large variety of different backgrounds, such as European, Indian, and African. They can look totally different, the only thing similar about them is that speak Spanish.

                • Jenny 8:38 PM on 12/15/2013 Permalink | Reply

                  There is no Hispanic race, Hispanics are those whose ancestors came from Spain, and their skin tones range from white to brown. They’re Caucasian. I believe you’re misinformed due to the revisionism from Latin America, promoted for ideological reasons to hide their history. Very few Hispanics from Latin America have any indigenous ancestry, The Spanis committed genocide against the indigenous of those lands over 500 years ago, far too few of the peoples indigenous to what’s called Latin America, were left after that. The Spanish then invented the trans-Atlantic slave trade to import cheap labor, bringing over 9 million African slaves to what is now Mexico, Central and South America and their Caribbean colonies, including Cuba and Puerto Rico. The Hispanics imported 36 times as many African slaves as were brought to the US and worked virtually all of them to death. Those that remain are not Hispanic. The Hispanics tried to spread into what is now the SW US, at times enslaving the Navajo, Apache and Ute peoples, who joined with the US settlers and kicked the Hispanics out of those lands.

                • danielwalldammit 2:18 AM on 12/16/2013 Permalink | Reply

                  No twisting at all. I just post something and you go. Always nice to see what passes for conservatism these days.

          • Jenny 6:08 PM on 12/15/2013 Permalink | Reply

            Naw, Greeks were really black, in fact, all of humanity were really black until the evil white man arrived on the spaceships and stole credit for civilization, that’s what Sharpton says, day-um!

  • just a conservative girl 1:17 PM on 09/13/2013 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: 9/11,   

    Middle School Children Assigned a Writing Assignment – Write a Good-Bye Letter to One Loved One from Twin Towers on 9/11 

    A middle school teacher asked the students to pretend that they were on one of the hi-jacked planes or in the Twin Towers on 9/11 and to write one letter to say good-bye as a homework assignment to mark the anniversary of 9/11.   These kids are in the seventh grade, that would roughly put them about 11 or 12.  9/11 happened before most of these children were born.

    There is an uproar about the assignment.  Many feel that this is very inappropriate and outright ghoulish.  I happen to disagree.  I think this is a good assignment.  One of the things that I feel is vital in education is teaching how to think, not what to think.  This is a way to bring the finality of that tragic event to the people who were killed that day.  As a person who is lets just say older than these kids, I remember clearly that day.  I remember hearing the recordings of calls made from inside the building as well as the planes.  Betty Ong calling the airline emergency number talking about the hijackers and how low the plane was flying.  Simply heartbreaking.  Or the calls from flight 93, ending with “Lets Roll” as the passengers tried to stop the plane from hitting another building, likely the U.S. Capitol or an attempt at the White House.  Simply heroic.

    I also believe that empathy is sincerely lacking in our society today.  We don’t put as much value on human life as we should.  I think this teaches these kids to think about that.  To look at their loved ones and come to the realization that on that day, thousands of people knew they were never going to see those people again.  One of the most indelible images of 9/11 are those of the jumpers.  Imagine what those people were thinking while falling to their deaths.

    Now, I have spent the majority of my life living outside of NYC and Washington D.C., so 9/11 is very personal to me.  I know people who were first responders, who made it out of those buildings, and sadly I knew someone who died, and I know others who lost a close loved one that fateful day.  But, these kids don’t have that connection.  This assignment may help bring those feelings alive to these students.  The further we get away from that day, the harder it will be to really understand what happened and the shock that people in this country felt.

    Again, since I have lived in the areas most directly affected by that day, I look at from that perspective.  These are children from Texas.  Now, as strange as this sounds, I remember having a conversation with a work colleague shortly after the event.  He worked in outside of Las Vegas, and I remember him saying something all the lines of he could only imagine how hard it was for people like me who lived in the D.C. area.  His connection to the event wasn’t what mine was.  I found it to be an odd comment at the time and obviously it really struck me since I remember that conversation all these years later.

    Not all parents are upset about this assignment.  One mother read the letter after her daughter went to bed.  The letter was addressed to her.  She said that she cried and cried after reading it and brought her daughter into her bed to sleep with her that night.  Her words “mission accomplished”.

    I don’t think this would be assignment that would go over well in the New York City area as it way too fresh for most of the people who live in this area.  The museum isn’t open, the new tower is not yet finished, New Yorker’s still live with the idea that being in that city automatically puts a target on their backs.  But do people who live in smaller towns in more rural areas think about that in the same way?  I don’t think that they do.  So trying to get that to come alive for younger students in those areas must be a very difficult task.  I think this teacher did that.  These children had to really think about what it would be like to be in a building that was on fire from jet fuel knowing that they were never going home again.  They were never going to see their loved ones again.  Of course you can never fully accomplish that, but it at least got them thinking about it.

    That is what I expect from teachers, get these kids to think.  Not what they should be thinking.

     
  • just a conservative girl 10:05 PM on 05/07/2012 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: 9/11, al qaeda, borman,   

    Quote of the Day – Cheryl Borman Edition 

    Cheryl Bormann, counsel for defendant Walid bin Attash, attended the arraignment Saturday dressed in a hijab, apparently because her client insisted on it. She further requested that the court order other women to follow that example so that the defendants do not have to avert their eyes “for fear of committing a sin under their faith.”

    Looking at a women’s hair is sinful, but murdering almost three thousand innocent people is not?

    Unreal.

     
    • SignPainterGuy 11:19 PM on 05/07/2012 Permalink | Reply

      Odd sensibilities, for sure. They murdered so many and we are supposed to care that they become “distracted” at the sight of a little female skin ! TOO BAD !

  • just a conservative girl 2:26 PM on 08/31/2011 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: 9/11, in memory, ,   

    What, Israel Doesn’t Warrant a Mention as a Community That Experienced Terrorism? 

    “As we commemorate the citizens of over 90 countries who perished in the 9/11 attacks, we honor all victims of terrorism, in every nation around the world, we honor and celebrate the resilience of individuals, families, and communities on every continent, whether in New York or Nairobi, Bali or Belfast, Mumbai or Manila, or Lahore or London.”

    From the White House “guidelines” on how to commemorate the tenth anniversary of 9/11.

    I don’t know about you, but I don’t think I need Obama to tell me how I should mark the day. 

    Hmm, do you think leaving out Jerusalem was just an oversight?  Or maybe they couldn’t think of another city that started with J.

     
    • Anne 9:23 PM on 08/31/2011 Permalink | Reply

      Jakarta

      But yes I think it was a deliberate oversight

  • Quite Rightly 4:29 PM on 08/15/2010 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: 9/11, , ,   

    Why Won’t Bloomberg Let A Church Destroyed on 9/11 Rebuild? 

    Saint Nicholas Greek Orthodox Church, which was destroyed on 9/11 by the collapse of the Twin Towers, has spent NINE YEARS trying to get building permits. Nine. Long. Years.

    From Fr. Constantine J. Simones Waterford, courageous pastor of St. Nicholas Church:

    Shame on Mayor Michael  Bloomberg and the members of his Landmarks Preservation Commission for  voting 9-0 to allow the building of a Muslim mosque at ground zero in  New York City.

    Too many Americans are sleepwalking when it comes  to understanding Islamic policies during the last 1,400 years of what I  see as its brutal history. No one talks about St. Nicholas Greek  Orthodox Church, which was crushed by the collapsing Twin Towers.

    Why  is the mosque put on the fast track to construction when St. Nicholas’  reconstruction is being hindered by New York City bureaucracy?

    Wake  up, America, before it is too late. The Greek Orthodox faithful of the  Balkans were enslaved by Islam for 500 years. Ask me what it means to  live under the laws of Islam, under Sharia Law and the Hadith. Call me  and I will provide a history lesson on what can be like to live under  Islam extremists.

    Fr. Constantine J. Simones Waterford

    About the St. Nicholas Greek Orthodox Church:

    Since  1922, St. Nicholas Church had stood as a quiet sanctuary of prayer and  reflection amidst the tumultuous and bustling crossroads of commerce.  For the past nine years the Port Authority of New York/New Jersey has  used bureaucratic obstacles and false promises to hinder the rebuilding  of the St. Nicholas Church.

    As Nice Deb (who has published an excellent commentary about the Ground Zero mosque, don’t miss it) pointed out:

    City officials, eager to deflect the criticism of a righteously outraged  public, claim that nothing can be done [to stop the mosque from being built on hallowed ground]… something that anyone who has  contended with zoning boards across the country knows to be untrue.

    Ask the congregation of the St. Nicholas Greek Orthodox Church of New York City.

    Many thanks to patriot Chris Wysocki at Wyblog for a heads up on the Ground Zero Church. You’ll want to read his report on moderate Muslims in New York (and watch the video) here.

    Cross-posted at Bread upon the Waters.

     
    • nicedeb 9:24 PM on 08/15/2010 Permalink | Reply

      Grrrrrrrrrrr! Now I’m really mad!

    • pjMom 12:41 AM on 08/16/2010 Permalink | Reply

      Ditto nicedeb. So much for tolerance and diversity, eh?

    • Shredderofmass 6:56 AM on 08/16/2010 Permalink | Reply

      Republica candidate for congress and Harvard Physicist Mike Stopa says he would not want a Mosque in his Neighborhood.
      http://www.stopaforusrep.com/blog/95-comments-on-mosques
      See this same content at a great pro-Israel site
      http://llphfreedom.blogspot.com/2010/08/two-comments-on-issue-of-mosques-by.html

    • Jack 9:04 PM on 08/16/2010 Permalink | Reply

      Shared you and NiceDeb on Facebook…two awesome articles.

    • Jim 9:57 PM on 08/16/2010 Permalink | Reply

      Good question!

    • Investigator 12:00 AM on 08/17/2010 Permalink | Reply

      I may be wrong about this… but a little investigation seems to indicate that “Fr. Constantine J. Simones Waterford, courageous pastor of St. Nicholas Church” may not actually exist. The only reference to him that I can find is the same text posted in the blog that started this thread. In fact the only places he shows up is in blogs… each of which contain the same text. It may turn out that the text, and the fictitional Fr. Constantine, was simply fabricated in order to incite unrest.

      The web site for St. Nicholas Church NYC says this:
      “Our priest, Father John Romas, has been temporarily assigned to St. Constantine and Helen Greek Orthodox Cathedral at 64 Schemerhorn Street in Brooklyn. St. Constantine and Helen’s Congregation have also warmly welcomed the Congregation of St. Nicholas as we work to rebuild our Church.”

      http://www.stnicholasnyc.com/?page_id=7

      Another story from NYTimes indicates that the major problem the rebuild project has faced is one of acquiring land; enough land to build a new church six times the size of the original for the 70 families that comprise the parish membership. While the church has retained the original 1200 square foot lot that the original four story church stood on, it is apparently not big enough for the new church they want to build.

      http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/03/nyregion/03trade.html?n=Top%2FReference%2FTimes+Topics%2FPeople%2FB%2FBagli%2C+Charles+V

      • Quite Rightly 12:42 PM on 08/17/2010 Permalink | Reply

        My bad. This is what happens when a writer doesn’t go back to original sources but relies on other people’s reporting. After further investigation on my part, I have concluded that the Greek Orthodox cleric in question does indeed exist but that his name and actual location have gotten garbled somewhere along the line during reprints. (More in next comment.)

      • Quite Rightly 12:50 PM on 08/17/2010 Permalink | Reply

        The delay in rebuilding the Church does not seem to result from any bad faith or “land grabbing” on the part of the Church. Originally, the Church was assured by then NY Governor Pataki that they could rebuild on the original location. However, the Port Authority wanted the Church’s land and offered the Church a land swap, which the Church accepted. But the Port Authority has never concluded the deal (more).

      • Quite Rightly 12:59 PM on 08/17/2010 Permalink | Reply

        We all know that building projects everywhere in the U.S. routinely get ensnarled in red tape, and the Ground Zero site presents many more than the usual issues. So, the glaring question in all of this for me is: How is it that the Ground Zero Mosque is getting escorted to the finish line with the support of the NYC mayor, the State Department, and even the president of the United States. Where is support for St. Nicholas Church? Reference: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/03/nyregion/03trade.html?pagewanted=1&n=Top/Reference/Times%20Topics/People/B/Bagli,%20Charles%20V&_r=1

    • Don 8:06 AM on 08/17/2010 Permalink | Reply

      I bet you could not build this church in Tehran ! I’m not from N.Y. city,so it really is non of my business,
      but building a mosque at Ground Zero is spitting in our faces,there are plenty around the corner…….If all of this is untrue then I agree with “Investigator “.

    • Grace Taylor 11:59 AM on 08/17/2010 Permalink | Reply

      There is a retired Greek Orthodox priest with the name of Fr. Constantine Simones.
      In 2006, and maybe today for all I know, he lived in Waterford, CT.
      He has been involved in Justice for Cyprus. Cyprus, as you will remember, is currently 37% occupied by Muslims in the form of the Turkish army.
      A link which I think satisfactorily proves he exists: http://news.pseka.net/index.php?module=sponsor

      • Quite Rightly 7:37 PM on 08/19/2010 Permalink | Reply

        Thank you, Grace.

        Also, the rebuilt church will need to be much larger to accommodate a large number of the visitors to the 9/11 memorial, once it is completed.

    • Crosshairball 12:08 PM on 08/18/2010 Permalink | Reply

      Hello Quite Rightly,

      I hope you don’t mind, but I have posted this post in it’s entirety over at Crosshairball. I did link back to here and attributed the post to Quite Rightly. I wanted to contact you first to ask permission but can’t find an email link. I figured this would be ok because of the cross posting part at the bottom of the post.

      Cross-posted at Bread upon the Waters.

    • Ignatz 10:39 AM on 08/19/2010 Permalink | Reply

      Quite: The mosque is 4 blocks away in an area of abandoned stores. That’s why there’s no red tape,

      • Quite Rightly 8:19 AM on 08/20/2010 Permalink | Reply

        Ignatz – Respectfully, I think you should check out the aerial views, widely available on the Web, including here. The actual distance from Ground Zero rubble to the mosque site is less than 600 feet, about 200 steps. Pace it off. In fact, a piece of the first airliner to hit the WTC plunged through the roof and top floor of the Burlington Coat Factory. How far away from Ground Zero is that?

    • Rachel 3:42 PM on 08/20/2010 Permalink | Reply

      The First Amendment of the Bill of Rights.

      “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

      http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/bill_of_rights_transcript.html

      Free exercise of religion. One of OUR founding principles. I am suprised no one has brought this up yet. You CANNOT argue about freedom of religion and just mean Christianity. If the founders had meant freedom of Christianity, they would have said “Freedom of Christianity” and not free exercise of “RELIGION”.

      Yes, the bombing of the Twin Towers was horrific, but so are many other acts of violence toward any PERSON. Pardon me for my sarcasm, but I find it hypocritical to label all Muslims under the ‘extremist’ label, when there are numerous ‘extremist’s of EVERY RELIGION.

      Oh yeah, lets not forget that Judaism, Christianity, AND Islam all worship the SAME GOD. “Oooohhh, no, those MUSLIMS want to build a place to WORSHIP GOD, GOD FORBID!!!” Phht, personally, I dont think God cares how He gets worshiped, as long as people believe in Him, and try to follow the Ten Commandments.

    • ThatGuy 3:53 PM on 08/22/2010 Permalink | Reply

      Did you read the entire article?

      “In keeping with the archbishop’s vision, Mr. Koutsomitis planned for a roughly 24,000-square-foot marble church and adjoining spiritual center at an estimated cost of up to $40 million. But church leaders say they have raised only $4 million. JPMorgan Chase has agreed to give $10 million toward the rebuilding of St. Nicholas, as part of the bank’s tentative deal to build an office tower on the site of the Deutsche Bank building. ”

      I wonder why you’re having trouble getting going.

      “The church wants the authority to provide roughly $55 million toward the estimated $75 million cost of rebuilding St. Nicholas.”

      Wow.

      Also, lets not even begin to get into the sheer amount of ignorance and bigotry it takes to even oppose this. Suppose the trade center was destroyed by a group of lunatic pro-lifers (no attempt at disrespect is intended here by the way) and people were protesting the rebuilding of this very church? How would you feel if the actions of others skewed their opinion on not only you but your faith? Do you really think there were no Muslims in the building that day? Do you really feel as though Islam-practicing American-born citizens didn’t feel exactly as you did on 9/11?

      • Quite Rightly 10:48 AM on 09/11/2010 Permalink | Reply

        @ That Guy: Perhaps you missed the part of the article that pointed out that the Port Authority would require the church to install a $35-million blast-proof concrete slab beneath its building to protect it from a possible explosion on the screening center ramps. That $35 million is a Port Authority estimate, by the way, which means, of course, that the actual cost will be much more.

    • Anna 9:44 AM on 09/11/2010 Permalink | Reply

      A article from the Greek Orthodox Observer:

      On September 11, 2001 the barbaric attack not only destroyed the majestic Twin Towers but also the tiny yet historic St. Nicholas Greek Orthodox Church, located south of the second tower of the World Trade Center. In the aftermath of its destruction, very little survived: two icons, one of St. Dionysios of Zakynthos and the other of the Zoodochos Pege, along with a few liturgical items, a book, and some candles.

      Within days, the Archbishop traveled personally to Ground Zero, setting foot on the site where the Church of St. Nicholas stood, in order to conduct a memorial service for the victims of those who perished in the attacks and to offer prayers for the families in mourning.

      On the Feast Day of St. Nicholas, December 6, the Archbishop, joined by His Eminence Archbishop Iakovos and area clergy, celebrated a somber Vespers and memorial service near where the Church once stood. Six months after the attacks, His All Holiness Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew also journeyed to this sacred site and presided at a memorial service with family members of the victims.

      Though small in stature, St. Nicholas Greek Orthodox Church was a place of ministry and worship both for her parishioners and also for local residents and workers in the Financial District of Manhattan who would pass by and often enter the Church. Following its collapse, the legacy of this tiny Church continues to dramatically impact peoples’ lives, and donations of almost $2 million have been received, as well as additional pledges of construction materials and appointments for the complete rebuilding of the Church. The city of Bari, Italy, where the relics of St. Nicholas were originally bestowed, has donated $250,000. The government of Greece has contributed $750,000 to these efforts, and the Ecumenical Patriarchate has given $50,000. The Governor of the State of New York, George Pataki, met with the Archbishop and pledged his support for including a new St. Nicholas in the redevelopment of the World Trade Center site.

      The task of rebuilding the Church of St. Nicholas involves careful coordination, planning and vision. To this end, His Eminence Archbishop Demetrios has appointed a committee to oversee the rebuilding project. In accomplishing their objectives, the committee has met with the Lower Manhattan Development Corporation so that the task of rebuilding St. Nicholas may be properly incorporated into the concept plans for the reconstruction of the World Trade Center site located at Ground Zero. These concept plans, which are the product of an inclusive process, envision the rebuilding of the historic Church of St. Nicholas as a functioning parish, ministering once again to the needs of her faithful. His Eminence, however, also sees the rebuilding of St. Nicholas as a matter of spiritual destiny, so that the millions of people who will visit the historic site of Ground Zero may find marking the place of a national tragedy, a sanctuary of solace and prayer, a concrete and visible testimony of renewed faith and hope.

      ——————————————————————————–
      Just another point. This church has been there since 1922.

    • Quite Rightly 10:44 AM on 09/11/2010 Permalink | Reply

      Thank you, Anna.

    • K.West 10:04 AM on 11/27/2010 Permalink | Reply

      Attention to all!!!!

      Read Psalms 37

      K.W.

    • Aphrodite 5:26 PM on 12/05/2010 Permalink | Reply

      Why is Mayor Bloomberg eager to build a mosque at Ground Zero but the only church destroyed on 9/11 he is against? This church was build back in 1922 and stood proudly for over 79 years without one incident. Yet, the Muslims who hijacked our planes and successfully murdered 3,000 of our citizens are allowed to build a mosque! Mayor Bloomberg says it freedom of religion but he is against a church being built on the site it was before the terrorists attack. What happened to diversity Mr. Bloomberg? Why do you hate Christians and not Muslims? When did a Greek Orthodox Christian ever destroyed anything in America? The faithful have raised money to rebuild our church. The people of Bari Italy donated money to rebuild our church. Why? Does it make sense? No. Today is the eve of St. Nicholas. Our church member will hold a mass at the site. Let’s see how many media attention this will get. Let’s see if Mayor Bloomberg shows his face.

      Lets pray the Church will be built and we hold a Mass in the new church next year the 10th anniversary of the day it was destroyed. If not it’s another victory for Turkey and AlQueda destroying churches and getting away with it. Remember Hagia Sophia in Constantinople and Apostolos Andreas in Cyprus.

      • Quite Rightly 6:27 PM on 12/05/2010 Permalink | Reply

        @Aphrodite

        Many others also feel the terrible injustice of so much support and attention going to the Ground Zero mosque when your beautiful Church, the St. Nicholas clergy and parishioners, and all the people of the neighborhood who visited that Church, are being all but completely ignored.

        I posted an announcement about the St. Nicholas vespers service (held, I note with sorrow, in a tent) at Bread upon the Waters.

        We must keep spreading the word.

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