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  • Mary Sue 1:09 PM on 03/01/2010 Permalink | Reply
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    CNN Summarizes Health Care Summit in 2 Minutes – What Could Go Wrong? 

    CNN must be fearful that Barack Obama didn’t fare very well in the health care summit last week. They put together a summary for those who missed the 7 hour summit condensing it into a two-minute recap of the entire event. (Video)  Surely they must realize when they are picking and choosing specific soundbites from an event of that length they are editorializing. If they realize they are editorializing you might think a news agency would make that point clearly. Don’t strain yourself watching for such an admission, however. It’s missing along with the other 6 hours and 58 minutes they cut to make this summary.

    You won’t see a single word Paul Ryan uttered proclaiming the health care reform a fiscal train wreck. You won’t see Obama cutting off Republicans as they are making clear arguments against the current proposed health care reform and offer reasoned and thoughtful alternatives. Nor will you see Democrats suffering from “anectdotitis” relating stories from constituents who wear their dead sister’s teeth when dental coverage is not at issue.

    What we do see is a montage of soundbites from Republicans suggesting they start over along with a few snarky responses from Obama on the use of the 2400 page bill as a prop. Worse still, is a montage of seemingly sincere Democrats suggesting there are many areas of agreement between the two sides followed by another montage of Republicans pointing to significant differences. The segment is concluded with Obama’s final ultimatum. Having watched nearly all of the 7 hour summit, I would have summarized the event entirely differently. My summary would have been equally biased, perhaps even more so. Then again I freely admit my bias, maybe it is time for CNN to do the same.

    Cross posted at Ruby Slippers

     
    • backyardconservative 2:11 PM on 03/01/2010 Permalink | Reply

      That CNN clip was pure MSM Dem hackery, as you say.

      • rubyslipperblog 4:20 PM on 03/01/2010 Permalink | Reply

        It bothers me more knowing ObamaCare got a bit of a bump in the latest Rasmussen poll They will take any slight shift in the wind and run with it.

  • Carol 6:10 AM on 02/26/2010 Permalink | Reply
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    I know that I’m joining the party a day late but I did have a quick observation. I thought our guys did a great job in the little time they were given. They showed up prepared, had their facts straight and I believe, made the case that ObamaCare as written directly contradicts the will of the people. The Dems relied on cheap emotional tricks, telling stories of constituents who had suffered needlessly under the cruel American free market system of health care. I know I said it earlier but the story about the woman who wore her dead sister’s teeth was just bizarre. As a southerner, I felt like the story played in to almost every negative southern stereotype going. I say almost because all it needed to complete it was a mention that the dead sister’s funeral was held in a trailer park down by the river. Odd to the nth degree.

    It is what it is. Obama means to pass this thing. But that doesn’t mean that it is over. Obama is overly fond of saying, “I won.” He didn’t win yesterday. Opponents of a government takeover of health care were given plenty of ammunition. Now we need to take that ammunition and fire away.

    Another thing-am I the only person who after watching yesterday’s coverage has a much, much better feeling about our Republican delegation in Congress? Good job, guys.

     
    • Pat Austin 7:20 AM on 02/26/2010 Permalink | Reply

      I agree…I think the Republicans held up very well and seemed well prepared. They did what they needed to so which was to show they have a plan and to explain why they are opposed to Obama’s plan. I thought Obama came off frustrated, bored, and sometimes cranky when challenged. Harry Reid is just plain mean and where in the world is he coming from saying “Nobody has talked about reconciliation”? That was totally bizarre.

    • Carol 7:41 AM on 02/26/2010 Permalink | Reply

      Obama had to know that the camera was always on him yet there he sat, rubbing his forehead, wrinkling his forehead, smirking and rolling his eyes. He did not come off well at all and he did nothing to erase the impression that he is an elitist, out of touch former professor who wants to lecture rather than lead.

    • crosssection 5:06 PM on 02/26/2010 Permalink | Reply

      A great article detailing how Americans feel about the healthcare proposal…not the administration…isn’t that what it is all supposed to be about???

      http://crosssection.wordpress.com/2010/02/26/how-many-times-must-we-defeat-the-healthcare-bill/

  • nosheepleshere 11:20 PM on 02/25/2010 Permalink | Reply
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    Healthcare Summit To Nowhere 

    Outside Blair House, the site of the vaunted White House Healthcare Summit, protesters carried signs.  One such sign read, “Healthcare reconciliation is for cheaters, cowards and soon-to-be-ex-senators.”

    Every lawmaker in the room knew that the election of Fearless Reader is never over. The midterms of 2010 are a referendum on the Chicagoland Administration. The president-in-training and his embattled White House team know this.

    The contentious kabuki theatre we witnessed today saw evidence of this as Fearless Reader, sans Teleprompters, played at being the community organizer.  He sat quietly while the Democrats gave their talking points and challenged Republicans as they delivered theirs.

    Many pundits on the right warned that the “summit” would be a trap for the Republicans.  Eric Kantor, John Boehner, John Kyl, Tom Coburn and company came prepared but the Democrats, predictably, monopolized the proceedings.  The Democrats, including The Won, spoke for 233 minutes or nearly four hours while the Republicans spoke for 110 minutes or one hour and fifty minutes.  That was fair, right?  President Obama says he didn’t count his time speaking because he is the president.

    Yuval Levin, writing for National Review’s The Corner, observed that, “…an important part of the Democrats’ problem is that Obama himself is their only star, and this format is not working for him. He certainly seems engaged and well informed (even given a few misstatements of fact, at least one of which John Kyl made very clear.) But he doesn’t seem like the President of the United States—more like a slightly cranky committee chairman or a patronizing professor who thinks that saying something is ‘a legitimate argument’ is a way to avoid having an argument. He is diminished by the circumstances, he’s cranky and prickly when challenged, and he’s got no one to help him. The other Democrats around the table have been worse than unimpressive. The Republicans seem genuinely well-prepared, seem to have thought through the question of who should speak about what rather carefully, and several of them have done quite a good job making their case against the Democrats’ approach. If we were to judge by debating points, Republicans certainly won the morning handily.”

    One final thought from Levin, those watching the televised event “are seeing their leadership fail to make a straightforward case for the Democratic approach to health care, or to respond to the most basic Republican objections about high costs, excessive spending, overregulation, and the effect of this plan on American families. They are managing to lose an argument about health care to Republican members of Congress—no mean feat.”

    “We cannot have another year-long debate over this,” the president said, asking all to search their souls and see if there is something they can agree to in the next several weeks. “If we can’t, then we’ve got to make some honest decisions,” the president said, with an implicit promise to proceed with passage of a healthcare bill over the objections of Republicans, “and that’s what elections are for.”

    Indeed.  And that brings me back to the sign seen outside Blair House:  “Healthcare reconciliation is for cheaters, cowards and soon-to-be-ex-senators.” [Emphasis mine.]

    Mark Silva of The Swamp said it best, “Seldom has so much dialog gone into changing so few minds.”

    Read more at No Sheeples Here.

     
    • rubyslipperblog 11:35 PM on 02/25/2010 Permalink | Reply

      Great photoshop! It is really true that Democrats have no one outside Obama to make their case. Reid and Pelosi were absurdly bad and not a single other point made, outside the dead sister’s teeth, is even memorable. The Democrats are in a world of hurt if Obama is the best they have.

    • fuzislippers 2:56 AM on 02/26/2010 Permalink | Reply

      Kyl was wonderful, probably my favorite comments of the day.

      The more the dems talked (and they talked a great deal) the more evident it became that they have no idea what they are doing or of the ramifications of it. Their hearts (!?) may be in the right place, but there was no evidence of brains on the dem side today. All pathos and ethos . . . signifying nothing. Except, of course, that BO still ended the disastrous-for-his-side’s day with his pre-written (thoroughly practiced) little threat about reconciliation. Bizarre.

      You have to wonder how someone so supposedly intelligent can sit there while his side rambles on about why reform is needed–sob story after sob story, but can’t articulate why their bill is the only acceptable or even make a case for it being the best possible fix, while his side lies outright (and got called on it in front of everyone in this country), and still think that it’s a good idea to push on via a very questionable procedure that will create a huge outcry from the American people, one that he won’t have to wait for November to hear. Bizarre squared.

  • Jill 5:22 PM on 02/25/2010 Permalink | Reply
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    Reonciliation 

    Obama’s wrap up: That sure sounded like a threat to resort to reconciliation at the end. I think that’s the baseball bat.

     
    • backyardconservative 5:33 PM on 02/25/2010 Permalink | Reply

      Yeah. And no tort reform. Durbin was very loudmouthed about that at the end, and of course he is in hock to the trial lawyers. Durbin and Obama are obviously very close, Durbin was senior Senator to Obama in Illinois, and of course is second only to Harry Reid in the Senate.

      You can kiss any real tort reform goodbye. That was a key Republican plank. The costs question is not addressed by the Dems–as we know it will only rise under their bill. So where’s the compromise? As you say, they’re getting the bat out.

      Well, they had it under the table all along.

    • Sherry 5:42 PM on 02/25/2010 Permalink | Reply

      The problem isn’t we haven’t heard or understood, it’s that we (the American people) have to pay for our insurance and therefore know exactly the unreality of what is promised. Currently the government pays for medicare and medicade and both are going bankrupt and many doctors won’t take it because it pays so poorly.

      So we’re supposed to believe that this bill will 1) reduce costs 2) not have rations on care 3) not affect our current existing structure of coverage or insurance even though it specifically regulates it with respect to fees, policy demands and consequences of not being comprehensive enough as defined by the government 4) not increase the deficit 5) insure all that currently don’t have coverage and 6) only tax the rich. I’ve heard it will grow hair on bowling balls, populate the world with unicorns, put a chicken in every pot and turn straw into gold.

      The reality is that if the government takes on insurance and thus eliminates private competition for the most part, (ala private schools vs. public), there will be massive overruns of cost –think fraud a’la medicare and medicaid plus actual demand. If the government takes on providing health care coverage, there will be upper limits or lines which means the government (which would be hard to fight for redress) rather than a company which one can sue or go through the paper process or create a stink to get coverage via the press, will be establishing limitations of coverage. Who wants to guess the amount of fraud that will generate?

    • rubyslipperblog 6:07 PM on 02/25/2010 Permalink | Reply

      I have to think there were a few knicks taken from the bat when Harry Reid blatantly lied this morning claiming there had been no discussion of using reconciliation. I watched Andrea Mitchell, as my Lenten sacrifice, and even she was incredulous that he had made such an absurd statement. In the morning’s MSNBC coverage David Shuster looked as though he needed immediate hemmorrhoid reduction surgery when discussing how the Democrats were faring against the Republicans.

      After reading a few of the left-wing blogs one thing is clear, watch for heavy use o the phrase “up or down vote.” The left loves that phrase and think it is the key to convincing the public that is all there is to reconciliation.

    • vegas art guy 7:17 PM on 02/25/2010 Permalink | Reply

      And we’re shocked at this why?

    • Yukio Ngaby 9:46 PM on 02/25/2010 Permalink | Reply

      I’m not so sure the bat’s going to help Obama. I have serious doubts that there are 50 Senators willing to vote for Obamacare. Sherry is right– people know too much about health insurance, have dealt with Medicare, Medicaid, or HMOs, and understand that the line coming from Obama and the hard-Left Dems is BS. Most Dems want to keep their jobs, and voting away people’s rights to choose their own health care isn’t the way to do it.

      Secondly, I’m curious about the nature of the language in the coming bills. The previous House and Senate bills would have been very difficult to repeal, while I’ve heard that Obamacare 2.0 would be much easier to repeal– a natural consequence of trying to make it more palatable to the American public. If that’s the case, then why on earth would anyone vote for it. If they use the bat, the Dems will likely face some nasty repercussions in Nov. and unite Repubs under a repeal banner. Why potentially waste your seat for legislation that can easily be corrected?

      I mean politics will ensue soon, and we’ll see what happens, but I don’t think it’s looking so good for Obamacare…

    • Reilly 2:13 AM on 02/26/2010 Permalink | Reply

      Yes and especially when he eerily referred to the upcoming elections — like he knows ACORN and SEIU are perhaps busy stuffing ballots into car trunks incase needed after election results are announced.
      “We cannot have another year long debate about this. So, the question I’m going to ask myself and I ask all of you is, is there enough serious effort that in a month’s time or a few week’s time or six week’s time we could actually resolve something? And if we can’t I think we got to go ahead and make some decisions and that’s what elections are for. We have honest disagreements about the vision for the country and we’ll go ahead and test those out over the next several months until November. Alright?”

  • Mary Sue 5:12 PM on 02/25/2010 Permalink | Reply
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    “A Ponzi Scheme That Would Make Bernie Madoff Proud” 

    One of the highlights today, and there were quite a few, was Paul Ryan’s rebuttal to Sheriff Joe Biden’s pointless discussion on the deficit. Ryan made clear any “savings” from the Democratic health care agenda were a result of “smoke and mirrors,” specifically included to game the CBO. Ed Morrissey has video of Paul Ryan’s highlight from the morning session, including the takeaway quote:

    The difference is this. We don’t think all the answers lie in Washington.

    By federalizing the regulation of insurance, and by mandating exactly how it’ll work, you make it more expensive and you reduce the competition among insurers for peoples business. We want to decentralize the system, give more power to small businesses, more power to individuals, and make insurance compete more. But if you federalize it, you standardize it and mandate it, you do not achieve that. And that’s the big difference.

    While I certainly had my doubts about this summit, and it may be clear that nothing substantive was accomplished, this worked very well for Republicans. As Ed Morrissey noted after listing those fabulous reviews of the morning session, “Maybe the GOP sandbagged Obama the first time around?” This was definitely not a replay of the House Republican retreat, the “A Team” showed up ready to play.

    THE HILL’S A.B. STODDARD: “I think we need to start out by acknowledging Republicans brought their ‘A Team.’ They had doctors knowledgeable about the system, they brought substance to the table, and they, I thought, expressed interest in the reform. I thought in the lecture from Senator John McCain and on the issue of transparency, I thought today the Democrats were pretty much on their knees.” (Fox News’ “Live,” 2/25/10)

    Cross posted at Ruby Slippers

     
    • backyardconservative 5:27 PM on 02/25/2010 Permalink | Reply

      Some more facts. I understand the president cut Camp off:

      gopconference

      RT @RepDaveCamp: This doc clearly shows how Dems’ bill slashes Medicare benefits by half a trillion dollars

    • fuzislippers 2:38 AM on 02/26/2010 Permalink | Reply

      Ryan was fantastic. Actually, all the Republicans did a fantastic job. So much better than babbling about some dead woman’s teeth and a thousand sob stories. As someone on Twitter noted, we LIVE these sob stories and can counter with plenty of our own . . . none of which are the government’s responsibility.

  • Jill 5:11 PM on 02/25/2010 Permalink | Reply
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    Talk softly and carry a large baseball bat 

    Remember what John Kass said:

    Obama will be in his element, talking and lecturing, the law professor framing the debate. He’ll spend hours being seen as reasonable. The Republicans will balk and the president will shrug. He’ll sigh and say he tried to reason with them but they refused.

    Then once the cameras are turned off, he’ll take out the baseball bat and explain how things get done The Chicago Way.

    It’s all about muscle. As an acolyte of the Chicago Democratic machine, he’s seen muscle at work in Daleyland. Now he’s in the White House, and he’s going to use muscle too.

     
    • backyardconservative 5:16 PM on 02/25/2010 Permalink | Reply

      True. He’s kind of skinny so he needs a solid bat. Usually he has Rahmbo do the dirty work. Rahmbo might be about to bail though. I think he might be in trouble on this one. I am not sure they have the votes. I wonder how they can hand out more pork to get these bills done–everyone is getting wise to this now. And it has to pass the House first if they are going to employ reconciliation.

      Will Stupak get enough anti-aborts to stick?

    • Obi's Sister 9:38 PM on 02/25/2010 Permalink | Reply

      I kinda like the ‘ping’ an aluminum bat makes. Reminds me of spring, the smell of fresh cut grass and leather. Ahhhh basa-ball beeen berry berry good to me.

      Using another baseball metaphor, Obama could learn a little graditude by hanging out with Chance Veazey.

    • vegas art guy 11:17 PM on 02/25/2010 Permalink | Reply

      Obama better be careful about that bat. Someone may bring a bigger one come November, if ya catch my drift…

  • Pat Austin 4:10 PM on 02/24/2010 Permalink | Reply
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    Pre-Summit Posturing 

    Isn’t it rich when Louisiana Purchase Mary Landrieu accuses the Republicans of not playing fair in the health care negotiations?  I mean, really…

    But Sen. Mary Landrieu D.-La, one of those Democrats who has expressed reservations about using reconciliation for this purpose, indicated this week that she is not foreclosing going along with that option. “I’m staying open to see how these negotiations go forward,” she told Politico. “I’ve not generally been a big supporter (of using reconciliatoin), but the Republican Party, the leadership, has really been very, very, very disingenuous in this process.”

    Seriously?

    More pre-summit posturing here.

     
    • fuzislippers 4:39 PM on 02/24/2010 Permalink | Reply

      Isn’t that the classic excuse of abusers? I didn’t want to do it, you made me.

      • Yukio Ngaby 4:54 PM on 02/24/2010 Permalink | Reply

        Abraham Lincoln: “They are the arguments that kings have made for enslaving the people in all ages of the world. You will find that all the arguments in favor of king-craft were of this class; they always bestrode the necks of the people, not that they wanted to do it, but because the people were better off for being ridden. That is their argument, and this argument of the Judge is the same old serpent that says you work and I eat, you toil and I will enjoy the fruits of it.”

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