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  • just a conservative girl 10:33 AM on 02/09/2012 Permalink | Reply
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    CPAC Day One – Part 1 

    The security is overwhelming. I have never seen it like this. They are checking each and every pass at the door for every speaker and event. That has not happened in the past. I guess they are taking the occupier protests seriously and doing their best to protect the speakers and the attendees. I am sure that they have had to hire additional people.

    AFL-CIO has decided to up the game and has rented rooms here, so it will be impossible to throw them out, as they are guests. Lovely.

    I just met Victoria Jackson from SNL fame. I ran into Stacy from the Other McCain and The DaTech Guy earlier this morning. They were both telling me I need to support Santorum.

    Santorum stickers are everywhere. He seems to have a great deal of support here. I would venture to say he could win the straw poll.

    Romney has a plan to use this conference to “woo” conservatives. Good luck with that venture.

    The Citadel has 31 cadets here. Nice to see people who not only willing to serve in the military, but also politically active at such a young age.

    Jim DeMint gave a great opening speech. I believe that CSPAN covers the event and will have videos.

    Herman Cain’s bus is here. I have not yet seen Mr. Cain himself, but the bus is at least here. He is due to speak after 4 today.

    The blogger bash is tonight, that should be a good time.

    It is still early, so not much more to report.

    But, I have to say, I always love it when conservatives are in town. They are in short supply in this neck of the woods.

  • just a conservative girl 6:23 AM on 11/29/2011 Permalink | Reply
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    The Cain Train has Derailed 

    “Mr. Cain has been informed today that your television station plans to broadcast a story this evening in which a female will make an accusation that she engaged in a 13-year long physical relationship with Mr. Cain. This is not an accusation of harassment in the workplace – this is not an accusation of an assault – which are subject matters of legitimate inquiry to a political candidate.

    Rather, this appears to be an accusation of private, alleged consensual conduct between adults – a subject matter which is not a proper subject of inquiry by the media or the public. No individual, whether a private citizen, a candidate for public office or a public official, should be questioned about his or her private sexual life. The public’s right to know and the media’s right to report has boundaries and most certainly those boundaries end outside of one’s bedroom door.

    Mr. Cain has alerted his wife to this new accusation and discussed it with her. He has no obligation to discuss these types of accusations publicly with the media and he will not do so even if his principled position is viewed unfavorably by members of the media.”

    It seems to me that the Cain campaign is all but outright admitting to a 13 year affair.  Any conservative that would consider voting for a man who was carrying on a 13 year affair just prior to deciding to run for the presidency of the United States better never, ever utter another word about John Edwards or Bill Clinton again.

    Unlike Sharon, the woman making these accusations seems credible and has phone and text records.  While she has a past (and who amongst us doesn’t?) that past doesn’t mean that what she is saying isn’t true.  Cain’s interview with Wolf Blitzer didn’t help him any.

    This is how I view extra marital affairs.  Sadly, they are common place in today’s society.  They are hurtful to the entire family.  You are not just cheating on your wife, you are also cheating your children.  If a person who runs for office says that they want to be trusted with the nation’s business but cannot treat his own family with respect, I have hard time believing that they will treat me with respect since I am just a stranger.

    Now, Newt is no better in this department.  He cheated on two of his wives.  But, he has admitted his mistakes, made amends with his daughters and seems to be in a stable and happy marriage now.  It doesn’t make what he did OK, because it doesn’t.  But as a Christian, I believe in the power of redemption and forgiveness.  Newt has seemed to find that in his own life.  So, I don’t believe that I am in a position to judge.  It would seem that Mrs. Cain is learning about this today.  If that is true, he has publicly humiliated his wife, something that did not have to happen.

    The true blue Cain fans are going to hold on and blame the woman and the left for these accusations.  That is their choice, but again no more talk about how they judge democrats who find themselves in a similar situation.  If you can still vote for him after this has come out, you can’t hold it against anyone else either.

    I like Mr. Cain.  I was a big fan as regular readers know.  I can rest easy because I came to the conclusion that he wasn’t up for the job long before any of this unpleasantness was made public and my judgements are based solely on qualifications for the job, or in this case, the lack of qualifications.



    • Sherry 8:08 PM on 11/29/2011 Permalink | Reply

      You said it as it should be:

      This is how I view extra marital affairs. Sadly, they are common place in today’s society. They are hurtful to the entire family. You are not just cheating on your wife, you are also cheating your children. If a person who runs for office says that they want to be trusted with the nation’s business but cannot treat his own family with respect, I have hard time believing that they will treat me with respect since I am just a stranger.

      If we cannot trust our President to be faithful to his marriage covenant then we should not trust him to be faithful with domestic and world affairs.

  • just a conservative girl 4:47 PM on 11/13/2011 Permalink | Reply
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    Just When You Think that the Left Can’t Lower Itself Anymore 

    You then find out that Bill Press actually uttered these words:

    “I wonder what Herman Cain’s supporters say about what happens in Penn State, because he happens to be a conservative politician Republican running for president.” “You can’t touch him, but the media can go after Sandusky… what’s the difference? There’s no difference, really.”

    Now, if Herman Cain is indeed guilty of the charges leveled against him by Ms. Bialek, that was assault.  Ms. Bialek, a grown women, never went to police or in any way attempted to press charges against Mr. Cain.  By her own admission when she asked Cain to stop he did.

    Sandusky set up a “charitable” organization for at risk boys so he could have a pool of boys to choose which one he would rape on any given day.  Do you think that Sandusky stopped when his victims asked him to?

    Yeah, I would say there is a difference.

  • just a conservative girl 3:22 PM on 11/09/2011 Permalink | Reply
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    Yeah, Rush Went There 

    Because he didn’t sexually harass anybody because she said stop, and he stopped; she said take me home, and he took her home.
    I did notice that when we were listening to Bialek she said that she told him, “What are you doing, Mr. Cain, I don’t want you to,” and he stopped. She said no and that was it. No means no. . . . When Herman Cain drove the babe home she actually got there and is alive to talk about it. 

    Now, I am not a listener of talk radio very often.  While I do sometimes get useful information, I personally feel it more entertainment than substance.  But, shortly after the press conference I was in a car with a friend who was working on a local campaign to re-elect a state delegate doing a get out the vote effort for yesterday’s elections.  He happened to have it on.  I thought then that Rush went too far, but I didn’t really get to hear the entire thing.  

    Jill over at Pundit and Pundette didn’t take to the Rush dialog on this any better than I have:

    Well yes, it’s true, no one’s accusing him of abduction or murder. But that’s what I’d call a pretty low bar. Would Rush have the same casual response if someone treated his wife like that?

     She asks the question:

    What she is accusing Cain of is worse than that. I’ve been out of the dating scene for a while and I know things have changed, but have we really sunk so low that a guy sticking his hand up a woman’s skirt and pushing her head down to his crotch is just making a romantic overture?

    There are many things about Ms. Bialek’s story that I find troubling.  There are things that just don’t make sense to me.  One being that what she was describing is not harassment, but assault.  That was a criminal offense and she should have contacted the police.  Digging to see if she has financial gain to making these allegations, is she prodded along to make them, and if so, by whom?  Those are legitimate questions to ask. Her credibility then becomes questionable.  But, for people to talk about her sexual history is downright low and disgusting.  Bill Kurtis has basically publicly called her a whore:

    And lot of people [at CBS] know her and she has a history. . . . There’s a lot more to the story that is just developing.

    One of the constant themes you hear from the right in regards to the media coverage of the accusations against Bill Clinton once he started running for president was that the media attacked the women instead of dealing with the allegations against President Clinton.  That is exactly what Rush just did.  He now no longer has the credibility to go after the press for not doing their jobs in regards to Clinton.  

    I believe that the first women’s motivations for making the accusation need to be examined.  Professor Jacobson over at Legal Insurrection has pointed out an article done the by the AP on one of accusers who seems to have a history of making harassment claims.  She went on to make another complaint at her next job, in fact.  In that complaint she was looking for a raise and a promotion.  Apparently, the claim was eventually dropped, but one can detect a pattern of behavior with her that makes her complaint against Cain much less credible.  

    As a woman, I find it just more than a more disturbing that the first line of defense is to call the woman a whore and to dig into her sexual history.  In this day and age most women have a sexual history.  Some may be more sorted than others, but few women were pure as the driven snow on their wedding nights.  The right or wrong of that is up to your own particular morals.  But if only a virgin or a woman who was on her wedding night can be a victim of sexual harassment or assault, most women better start not leaving their homes without a guard, because it will open season on many of us.  

    I have to hang my head in shame to see where Rush took this conversation.  His sexual innuendo with her last name and saying that since she is still alive to talk about it is way over the line of decency.  I am with Jill in asking if someone stuck his hand up his wife’s skirt would he just be grateful that she isn’t dead, and to heck with the gesture?  

    As a person who honestly believes that the media went too far in going after the women who accused President Clinton in a personal, demeaning, and disgusting fashion, I am no more pleased the some on the right are doing exactly the same thing.  Investigate the claims and look into seeing if they are being driven by money or a sick attempt at 15 minutes of fame.  But leave the woman’s sexual history out of it.  It is none of our business.  

    • SignPainterGuy 3:50 PM on 11/09/2011 Permalink | Reply

      It is indeed a slimy can-o-worms these women have opened up !

      • just a conservative girl 4:04 PM on 11/09/2011 Permalink | Reply

        No woman has opened the particular can of worms I am referring to. That is all you guy, all you. Her sex life isn’t our business and making a claim of rape, harassment, assault or anything else that a woman may make still doesn’t make it our business.

        • SignPainterGuy 4:56 PM on 11/09/2011 Permalink | Reply

          Sheeeeew, I knew I was steppin` in it as soon as I clicked the “reply” button. ;-)

          The women made the charges. That`s the very first thing the vast majority of us knew about it. There is the “opening of the can” ! That being said, I agree with you, it really isn`t our biz. I like knowing people are happy with their lives, but I don`t need nor want all the details.

          You and I know, in a correct world, people`s personal lives would be left “personal”. None of us believes this is a correct or even remotely fair world. Ugly invasions of privacy are gonna happen, we can watch or don`t. I like it no more than you.

          As for Rush, he is a cheer leader for the right. He can be expected to do the opposite of what the left does. He is attacking the women while the left attacks Cain. Right or wrong, there it is ….. He has a remarkable record as “America`s Truth Detector”.

          My position is, this all gives me pause. I`ve backed up to take a wider-angle view, hoping to see more of the forest, waiting to see what shakes out. How`s that for mixed metaphors ? ;-)

          One more; if you attempt to sling mud on someone, you`re gonna get some on yourself.

          I hope the whole truth comes out !

          • SignPainterGuy 5:00 PM on 11/09/2011 Permalink | Reply

            The last woman came forward with allegations, not having made official charges in the past. I guess news reporters broke the story of the other women having file charges.

            I guess it would be more accurate to say, reporters and this last woman “opened the can-o-worms”.

            • just a conservative girl 6:24 PM on 11/09/2011 Permalink | Reply

              No, it would be accurate to say that men are doing what men have doing forever. Treating a woman who makes a claim into a whore. This is the age old story of the rape victim who deserved it because her skirt was too short.

              Women continue to treated as sexual objects by some, and it is very disappointing to see and hear conservative men doing it.

              • SignPainterGuy 8:09 PM on 11/09/2011 Permalink | Reply

                OK, have it your way, but you`ll have it without me. I`m feeling really uncomfortable under your all-encompassing man-blanket !

                GOD made me so much more than just an instinctive animal ! I happen to respect and love women and see women as equals, to be appreciated and wooed, not taken as property or dismissed as somehow less than myself. I reject your premise.

                • just a conservative girl 8:54 PM on 11/09/2011 Permalink | Reply

                  Where exactly did I say all men? I was talking about two men. One who kept referring to her as buy a lick and another who heard in an elevator she is loose woman. That is hardly all men.

                  • SignPainterGuy 1:38 AM on 11/10/2011 Permalink | Reply

                    “No, it would be accurate to say that men are doing what men have doing forever.” (sic)

                    That would be the all-encompassing man-blanket.

                    “That is all you guy, all you.”

                    That was personal. I didn`t open the subject / “can-o-worms”, Politico`s reporter`s and this last woman / accuser did.

                    One simple, four letter word could have avoided the insult I felt, “some”, as in “some men”. OR, “too damn many” men, OR, “A frustratingly large number of” men. Anything to show that you realize that some of us men try to be Christian men.

                    I read your posts with interest and comment to share my opinion and hopefully, to encourage you to write more. I accept that you have medical issues that I credit for your many typos, but I take them in stride, giving every effort to take your story in the sense you intend.

                    I appreciate the same courtesy !

              • kerry 8:13 PM on 11/09/2011 Permalink | Reply

                what is your outrage really about? are you saying women never lie about rape? really? and you seem very comfortable lumping all men together as brutes and neanderthals.

                • SignPainterGuy 8:20 PM on 11/09/2011 Permalink | Reply

                  My point exactly ! Thank you !

                  • kerry 8:28 PM on 11/09/2011 Permalink | Reply

                    you’re welcome. it’s just as wrong to lump all men into a category as it is women.

                • just a conservative girl 8:39 PM on 11/09/2011 Permalink | Reply

                  My outrage is about the hypocrisy. The right still screams bloody murder about how the Clinton accusers were treated by the media and they turn around and do exactly the same thing to this woman.

                  I never said that women don’t lie about rape. I said calling her a slut shouldn’t be the first line of defense.

    • zillaoftheresistance 9:10 PM on 11/09/2011 Permalink | Reply

      I don’t know if those women are slutty or not and I DON’T CARE, but one of them has a history of causing trouble for former employers with false accusations and another has a history of filing all kinds of lawsuits – a career “victim”. That they come out NOW all these years later with these unprovable stories doesn’t make them ‘whores’ regardless of their sexual history, it makes them bitches, gold digging and/or attention seeking BITCHES. They are not credible and neither is the moron stream media. When I see a story in the NY Times or some other MSM entity about Obama’s murdered dead gay alleged lovers then maybe I will give a flying fig about something they allege about Herman Cain or any other Republican. Until that day comes, nothing they say is worth a tinker’s damn.

      • zillaoftheresistance 9:12 PM on 11/09/2011 Permalink | Reply

        Also, shouldn’t the fact that one of those bitches works for the Obama administration kind of cast a shadow on her credibility? How about the fact that these attacks are coming out of Chicago?

        • zillaoftheresistance 9:13 PM on 11/09/2011 Permalink | Reply

          That Bialek woman lived in David Axelrod’s building and is apparently friendly with him:

          • just a conservative girl 9:15 PM on 11/09/2011 Permalink | Reply

            I am not defending the woman. I am talking out about how she has been sexualized. The things you are bringing up are legitimate things to look into.

            • zillaoftheresistance 10:22 PM on 11/09/2011 Permalink | Reply

              I don’t listen to talk radio (radios are for me to find music I can sing along to) but are you sure the reference to ‘history’ explicitly meant sexual history? Could it not have mean these women’s histories of being litigious gold digging serial accusers who are well connected with prominent leftists? Those bitches do have histories that are not sexual in nature which completely undermines their credibility.

              • just a conservative girl 10:31 PM on 11/09/2011 Permalink | Reply

                Yes, there was more to the quote. Let’s put Herman and Sharon in the car at the same time and the roles may even have been reversed, given the track record here. That is about her sex life plain and simple.

  • just a conservative girl 7:53 PM on 11/07/2011 Permalink | Reply
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    The Latest Herman Cain Sexual Harassment Allegations 

    Today, Sharon Bialek, became the first woman to go on the record and formally accuse Herman Cain of being sexually inappropriate with her.  She story is very detailed.  Something that we didn’t have in the past.  The Cain campaign has denied the charges as false and baseless.

    Here are the issues with her story as I see it.

    1. What she is describing is assault, not harassment.  She says that since she didn’t work for the National Restaurant Association she felt that had no claim.  That is simply untrue.  If her story is accurate, Cain asked for sex in order in return for a job.  That is exactly what quid pro quo sexual harassment is.  She would have been perfectly within her legal rights to file a claim of sexual harassment against Cain with the NRA.
    2. She never reported this to the police.  Again, this was attempted rape at worst or assault at best, if her story is true.  Both of which are criminal offenses.
    3. After Mr. Cain stopped after her refusal she wants people to believe that she got into a car with him.  Really?  That makes no sense whatsoever.  None.  As a women I can’t imagine getting into a car alone with a man who just tried to my force my head into his crotch area so he could receive oral sex.  EVER.
    4. She hired Gloria Allred, known publicity whore and tool for the left.  Just ask Meg Whitman.

    The NRA has released a statement confirming her employment that falls within the time frame of her story.  One of the attorney’s for one of the original accusers during his time at NRA has also made a statement saying that the accusations of Ms. Bialek are “similar” to that of what happened to his client.  Easy to say, since we have no idea what the accusations of the first two women are.  The Politico story originally said that one was a gesture that was not really of a sexual nature.  Whatever the heck that means.

    I hope Ms. Bialek is ready for the firestorm that is going to come her way.  She will have people digging into her past.  Some will be doing it to prove her right, others will be doing it to prove her wrong.

    If these charges are true, Herman Cain cannot be president. Character matters.  If these charges are not true shame on the people who have made them so public.  Because once this is all over with, where will Mr. Cain go to get his reputation back again?  People will now always know him as a sexual harasser, regardless of the truth.

    Cross Posted at Pundit Press and just a conservative girl.  

    • fuzislippers 8:15 PM on 11/07/2011 Permalink | Reply

      The whole thing doesn’t make sense. Why did she go to DC to talk to him? It wasn’t an interview, just networking. Most people do that via email and/or the phone. But for some reason she went to DC. Upon arrival she notes the hotel upgrade. I’d have called my boyfriend to thank him, but upon finding out that it wasn’t him, I’d march down to the desk and get the room I was originally supposed to have. No favors, that way you don’t “owe” anyone anything, even in twisted minds (which I don’t think Cain has, but why even go there? Stupid).

      Then, why accept a DINNER invitation? For a professional/business meeting? Lunch is much more appropriate, and I’d have insisted upon it (though I’d never have gone in the first place, but still).

      Then go driving around with him, presumably he’d been flirting with her (and she with him), or he’d not have lurched at her like a horny teenager (assuming he did), so why–again–“go there”? She’s a grown woman, you can’t tell me she doesn’t know how things work in the world. And why would he attack her in the car and not ask to see her fabulous suite? Rings untrue. Unless he did ask, she said no, and the car ride was the compromise? In which case, again, why?

      Then, the story goes, they’re sitting in the car (I’m guessing with a driver? not that it matters, but if he’s trying to impress her with fancy suites…), and he lunges at her, thrusting his hand up her skirt and shoving her head crotch-ward? Really? Out of the blue, just like that? With nothing leading up to it? Was he drunk? If so, why would he stop the second she told him to? Sexual assailants aren’t usually that polite in the commission of their crimes.

      Look, this whole thing stinks to high heaven. If conservatives care that he made a pass–or an almost-attack–while married That’s fine. Within our rights. But that story? No way it happened that way, not without huge chunks left out. Huge.

      • just a conservative girl 8:36 PM on 11/07/2011 Permalink | Reply

        I was out doing get out the vote stuff for our election tomorrow. I am going to watch the whole thing later. But, just getting into a car with a man who just tried to assault you is dumbfounding to me.

        But, I have to ask what her motiviation to lie is. Maybe she is naive enough not to realize that her entire life is going to become fodder for the media, something a teenaged child is not going to be jazzed about.

        • fuzislippers 8:53 PM on 11/07/2011 Permalink | Reply

          Well, she’s an unemployed single mom, so my guess the motivation is money. She’s a weird sort of conservative to “hire” Allred and from Chicago, so my spidey-sense is tingling.

          • SignPainterGuy 1:17 AM on 11/08/2011 Permalink | Reply

            Spidey-sense has a remarkable accuracy rate ! I`m going with it.

            Too much doesn`t add up. Gloria Allred`s involvement here when she refused to assist with Slick Willy`s victims when there was tons more corroborating evidence rings of opportunity more than need !

            • just a conservative girl 1:18 AM on 11/08/2011 Permalink | Reply

              Allred did file a brief for Paula Jones. I heard that today.

              • SignPainterGuy 1:35 AM on 11/08/2011 Permalink | Reply

                I heard it too on Hannity radio. She appeared to do no more than necessary (I think was the impression). (?)

          • just a conservative girl 1:18 AM on 11/08/2011 Permalink | Reply

            I don’t think she realizes what she has gotten herself into if she is doing it for money. The things I have seen so far has not been nice, to say the least.

            Also, what exactly constitutes a conservative to Gloria Allred?

            • fuzislippers 2:03 AM on 11/08/2011 Permalink | Reply

              She only took the case to help Obama. The presser started with Allred saying that this Chicago person is a “registered Republican” and then went on to tout her TEA Party creds. Why on earth would a TEA Party person do this (one), and (two) hire–of all people–crazed leftie Gloria Allred? None of it makes sense.

              • just a conservative girl 8:33 AM on 11/08/2011 Permalink | Reply

                Yeah, when she did register as a republican?

                I still have not watched the whole thing. and I can’t until tomorrow, but I am interested to hear it all.

    • marcjan 8:36 PM on 11/07/2011 Permalink | Reply

      The press conference was unsettling. It seemed to be scripted.

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      • just a conservative girl 8:32 AM on 11/08/2011 Permalink | Reply

        The fact that the press conference was scripted doesn’t really bother me. Any good lawyer would do that. Allred is the queen of the sensatlonal presser. Allred got rich for a reason.

  • just a conservative girl 2:45 PM on 11/04/2011 Permalink | Reply
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    Quote of the Day – Georgette Mosbacher Edition 

    “The only person who I hear when I’m making my calls is, ‘I like this Cain guy,'” said Georgette Mosbacher, who said she’s “always taken aback by it,” given Cain’s lack of money and organization.

    Georgette Mosbacher, New York Bundler for GOP Candidates.

    Apparently, Herman Cain has not been hurt on the GOP side with the recent scandel.

    • SignPainterGuy 7:51 PM on 11/04/2011 Permalink | Reply

      Here is one aspect of the Cain for President Campaign that I hope and pray will continue all the way through until he steps down at the end of his second term; the lack of the belief that everything done must involve spending huge sums of money ! It`s gotten to the point that people won`t pick their nose without being paid to ! (Speaking figuratively of course)

  • just a conservative girl 4:14 PM on 10/31/2011 Permalink | Reply
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    Quote of the Day – Rush Limbaugh Edition 

    ‎”This smear of Herman Cain is about blacks and Hispanics getting too ‘uppity’ for liberals. That’s what this is. It’s Democrats saying, ‘You don’t achieve in American politics as a Republican, as a self-reliant individual or conservative. You don’t do it. You try it and we’re going to destroy you!’

    Rush on the reports that Herman Cain has sexually harassed women in the past.

    • SignPainterGuy 6:32 PM on 10/31/2011 Permalink | Reply

      But, but, liberals / progressives / dhimmicrats are the ones that claim to be “for” the blacks and Hispanics ! I`ve heard that for decades. They wouldn`t be lying would they ?

    • Macross 9:45 PM on 10/31/2011 Permalink | Reply

      Yes, and lets conveniently forget the fact that Washington is now abuzz with the news of Perry’s hand in the story.

      Lets also ignore the fact that the Democrats would’ve gained more if they released information such as this during the presidential election itself, instead during the Republican primaries which would only benefit people like Romney, Perry, Bachmann, Santorum et al.

      Let’s once again ignore the fact that even Cain himself acknowledged the truth of the Politico story.

      Lets, one more time, ignore the fact that most of you have not displayed any interest to find out if the allegations had any truth in them.

      And finally, lets ignore the fact that Limbaugh’s comment smacks of hypocrisy, considering the smearing the lot of you have done on Obama. Especially since there are documented evidence behind Politico’s claim, while almost all of the Obama character smears are based on nothing more than ‘sources’, fudged up facts and outright fabrications.

      You just gotta love the hypocrisy of the God-fearing right. lol.

      • just a conservative girl 11:10 PM on 10/31/2011 Permalink | Reply

        Hmm., apparently you didn’t read the below post where I asked the question if this was done by the right. I agree with you, their are people on the right that have more to gain then the left at this point. Since this did happen by his own admission it isn’t a smear job. This is information that should have come out and the earlier the better. You also must have missed my post about the case against Cain being the nominee.

      • SignPainterGuy 11:09 PM on 11/01/2011 Permalink | Reply

        Macross, You got nuthin`. Politico has not been able to produce the two accusers, who BTW, were paid only a few months salary to shut up and disappear. Must not have been much to the accusation for that pittance, plus, as you either “forgot” or just didn`t bother with noticing, the accusations were found to be baseless.

        EVERYTHING I`ve ever said about Oblamer is true. He`s a marxist socialist liar and most likely muslim. Prove me wrong !

        Nope, you got nuthin` !

    • Macross 12:11 AM on 11/02/2011 Permalink | Reply

      I just read your previous blog, Conservative Girl. Good on you.

      Sign Painter Guy, for the record, Politico has spoken to the two women, has copies of the agreement, has testimonials from a few people involved in the matter. They approached the Cain campaign thirteen days ago, asking for comment, but they kept quiet for 5 days, while putting out feelers to know how much Politico really know.

      Matters turned to a joke from then on, as Gordon sent an e-mail denying the accusations, retracted it twelve hours later, followed by an amended mail, and then stayed silent again. A Politico staff questioned Cain in front of other reporters 4/5 days ago, and he fudged his answers. Finally, after a whole lotta fudging, he came clean three days ago, admitting that there was a lawsuit and denying any knowledge of the settlement. Two days ago, he changed his story and confirmed that he knew of the settlement, but did not know of the numbers involved. Now, those are the facts – a favor for you to stop you from making anymore silly comments.

      Next: When you make an accusation, the onus is on you to provide the proof. Get it? So can you prove your accusations? Of course not. You’re just a regular sheeple.

      Once again, for the record, both of your accusations about Obama above is based on a short book written by an individual under the regular employment of a notable right wing group, distributed several months before Obama’s inauguration. The book made a lot of fanciful, malicious and completely crazy claims, but did not offer any FACTS nor CREDIBLE DOCUMENTATION to support its claims.

      Right wing bloggers were then asked to publish the stories (I personally know of one well known blogger who received $ contribution via his Paypal Donate after publishing the piece), and it began to be repeated in other moderate and/or non-political sites; all the while, without offering any evidence, and yet, like you, demanding Obama to disprove of the wild allegations.

      If you apologize, I might even provide a copy of the original book which have made you abandon your sense of ethics and common sense, driven by an unnatural hate of Obama – successfully perpetuated by the very book.

      On the other hand, if you start on another silly rant, then I will just ignore you and let everyone read your comments for themselves.

      • SignPainterGuy 6:17 PM on 11/02/2011 Permalink | Reply

        First, good try, a for effort, but no, what I believe to be true about Obozo is not based on any book, but from his own statements telecast worldwide for all to see. I do not hate anyone, but I do hate what some people do.

        Obama has proved to me he is no Christian by his statement, “There are many paths to Heaven.” No Christian believes that. He recited perfectly numerous islamic “sayings” (I don`t remember there names), has a history of islamic teachings when a child, the most formative years. His own statements about the people he associated with from his teen years onward and his socialist policies mark him as a socialist in the marxist fashion. He stated in `05 or `06 that he was born in Kenya. Kenyan parliament at least twice claimed him as their own. He has promised to create jobs, make the environment better for business, bring down unemployment, and on and on, in his own words, NOT from any book. That makes him a liar.

        I reiterate; Oblamer is a marxist socialist liar and most likely a muslim, AND, because his father was Kenyan and never even applied for US citizenship, contrary to the US Constitution which requires that BOTH parents be US Citizens, he is ineligible to be VP or pResident of the USA !

        You deserve no apology and none will be offered !

        • SignPainterGuy 6:47 PM on 11/02/2011 Permalink | Reply

          BTW, I post my comments on this blog precisely because I like all the bloggers, respect them and their works, whether I agree with every word or not, and I hope that my comments are read and that they are respected and thought provoking as are the posts. I can be wrong, but I will never say anything I don`t believe to be true, or with tongue planted firmly in cheek. I would hope that would be obvious !

          It is my intention to be respectful to all, macross, even mind-numbed sheeple such as youself !

    • Macross 8:44 PM on 11/02/2011 Permalink | Reply

      SignPainter Guy,
      Your arguments are disingenuous, myopic, and even dishonest on several occasions. And despite your claims of being respectful, you are definitely not.

      Obama’s statement was actually,
      “I am rooted in the Christian tradition. I believe there are many paths to the same place and that is a belief there is a higher power, a belief that we are connected as a people.’
      Chicago Sun-Times, 2008

      I always find it troubling that people would rephrase his statement, out of context, as proof of his un-Christianess. Using the same barometer, should we also question the faith of former President Bush? After all, he did say,

      “I don’t talk about a particular faith. I believe the Lord can work through many faiths, whether it be the Christian faith, the Jewish faith, Muslim faith, Hindu faith. When I speak of faith, I speak of all faiths, because there is a universal call, and that main universal call is to love your neighbor. It extends throughout all faith.”
      Houston Power Center, August 2003

      Furthermore, I never realized that fraternizing with people of different faiths, in this case Islam, constitutes heresy, and proof of one’s ‘Islam-ness’. If so, perhaps someone should explain that to former President Bush too, considering that he claimed Islam is a noble faith, after sitting in a prayer headed by a Muslim cleric, in honor of the Muslim festival Eid-al-Fitri. He also announced that, “For the first time in history, we’ve added the Quran to the White House library.” He followed that up with, pay attention SignPainterGuy, “We cannot carry the message of freedom and the baggage of bigotry at the same time.”

      This is the video: http://youtu.be/VaNKz2rDF04

      Also, this is a video of President Bush speaking inside a mosque! And horror of horrors, he apparently has read the Quran.

      “Let me quote from the Quran itself.
      In the long run, evil and the extreme, will be the end of those who do evil. For that they rejected the signs of Allah and held them up for ridicule.”

      This is the link: http://youtu.be/w0phxuzQ7sE

      Former President Bush, and his First Lady, Laura, should also be told that what they have done in the following pictures, is wrong and turns them into a Muslim. Right, SignPainter Guy?


      Next, I demand you prove your statement that Obama claimed he was born in Kenya. I say this now: You lied.

      Moving on, I see you are now trying to divert this topic to Obama’s policies. Typical. Anyway, which politician in the history of the world has ever fulfilled all of their campaign promises? How many campaign promises did Bush Jr., Clinton, Bush Sr. and Reagan break?

      Furthermore, do you realize that the economic recession which President Obama inherited, was the worst since 1937? Are you blind to the fact that $17 trillion dollars were wiped off from the wealth of Americans in that recession? Are you ignorant of the fact that Obama created more jobs in his first two years that Bush did over eight years? Do you also deny that the economy was shedding 700,000 jobs a month when Obama took over, and after an 11-month struggle, he has finally turned it around and there have been positive job numbers for the last year?

      Finally, I want you to prove your assertion that he is a Marxist. I say this again: You lied.

      And if short association with another Marxist is all you have, then I suggest we discuss if former presidents Bush, both of them, are Islamic Jihadis, considering that they had a close personal and business association with the Bin Ladens for almost three decades, and regularly hosts the Bin Ladens in their home.

      While we’re at it, we should also discuss former President Reagan’s socialist tendencies as well, seeing his support of unions (heck he even led a Union strike once). Furthermore, do not forget that Reagan was a big secret fan of the Keynesian economic model, secretly using deficit spending to build the economy which saw the federal debt rising over 300% during his eight years in office. Let’s also not forget that Reagan raised taxes in seven out of his eight years in office.

      And lastly, for heaven’s sake, stop talking about the Constitution. It’s embarrassing to read. You either have no idea what you are talking about, or you are once again, making things up.

      In light of your last statement, I must insist that you apologize for all of your lies, exaggerations and made up facts. It is clear now that you have no first hand knowledge of the things you said.

      • SignPainterGuy 1:34 AM on 11/03/2011 Permalink | Reply

        Nope, still no apology forthcoming, you don`t deserve it. You have resorted to name calling, a typical liberal/ regressive tactic. Childish.

        Bush was naive in his belief that islam is benign. Islam is islam. there is no moderate islam. He made a grave error in that respect as has Perry and many others.

        Obama inherited an economy that had already seen the negative effects of two years of dim controlled congress. He has also spent $4T in 3 years whereas Bush spent $5T in 8 years. He will reach 200% of Bushes rate of spending in half the time as Bush by the end of his one and only term, IF he isn`t impeached before then. I pray so.

        The Constitution is the foundation of our laws; there is NO reason to stop talking about the greatest single governing document written for a country.

        As for Obama`s statement of Kenyan birth, I saw it online from an interview by an Ohio newspaper reporter, who at the time of Obama`s running for state senate of IL. he asked Obama, “Where were you born?” Without hesitation, he answered, “Kenya”. That vid has since been scrubbed apparently, as I`ve never been able to find it, and the link disappeared when my hard drive crashed this spring and was replaced.

        My statements are of course paraphrased, but maintain the essence. I sleep well at night knowing that I never lie. I stand firm in my statements, nothing has changed, believe as you will. I re-reiterate; I am firmly convinced, Oblamer is a marxist socialist lying man-child and most likely a muslim. He is also an ineligible usurper pResidunce !

    • Macross 2:18 AM on 11/03/2011 Permalink | Reply

      ” You have resorted to name calling, a typical liberal/ regressive tactic. Childish.”
      And I supposed your posts here, from the very first one, were very adult? Here’s another one for you. Hypocrite.

      So when Bush (along with Perry and Reagan and so many more non-racists and experienced politcian) says things such as that, it is considered ‘naive’. But when Obama does, he is a Muslim? Hypocrite.

      As for him spending 4 trillion, that’s a lie. Again. First off, as per the Treasury Department, (Link: http://www.fms.treas.gov/mts/index.html), the Federal government has spent $2.6 trillion since the start of Obama’s presidency. Furthermore, the federal budget starts from October 1 – September 30. Which means, Obama’s spending only began in his first budget, which started on October 1 2009. Calculated as such, his spending total is $1.6 trillion. Also consider that his bailout of the auto industry (a successful policy), the government has recouped 90% of the money there. As for the bank bailouts, pushed through by both Bush and Obama, guess what? The banks (over 600 of them) are repaying the federal government since 2009. Those figures are unavailable, but even without that, guess what? http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6080/6088811201_96839c6977_b.jpg

      Wrt to the Kenyan birth claim and the imaginary video, with your track record of lying, do you think anyone will believe you? Furthermore, considering people like you have kept and dissected every single video of his since he entered into politics, and published it several times over, are we to believe that no one else has a copy of the video, and no news agency, including the press, have transcripts of it?

      As for the your Constitution comment, there is every reason for YOU to stop talking about it since you are a person of suspect character and is not above fabricating facts to support your claims. Just look at your earlier comment about the Constitution.

      You have made so many outrageous, misleading and false statement here, and when push comes to shove, you’ve failed to corroborate any of them. As I’ve said earlier, most of the criticisms directed towards Obama from the likes of you, especially the personal ones, are malicious lies, with absolutely no proof behind them. That you can ‘sleep well at night’, as you say, only shows that you lack character and integrity.

      On a final note, while you are basing your opinion on right wing conspiracy theorist (likely the same ones who are behind the Elenin, or Rothschild or Prince William is the anti-Christ theories), and spreading your politics of hate and racism, the rest of us will continue to base our opinions on facts.

      I am done with you, liar. Have a great day.

      • SignPainterGuy 5:33 PM on 11/03/2011 Permalink | Reply

        Is everyone reading this ?

        I`ve chosen to allow Macross what he desires, except for an apology, which is, “To be the smartest person in the room”. When we all leave, he can be !

  • just a conservative girl 9:38 AM on 10/31/2011 Permalink | Reply
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    Who is behind the Herman Cain Allegations 

    The traditional wisdom would point to the liberal media smear machine.  We have all heard this story before.  The left has gone out of its way to bring racism into the discussion about Mr. Cain.  I have only heard one comment about race coming from the right about Herman.  But, we have all heard plenty coming from the left.  The fact that we, as conservatives, would like a black man is something that they just can’t accept.  The narrative that we are racists runs so deep within the liberal left meme they just can’t let it go.

    But, the truth is that they are not the only ones that could be to blame.  Both Romney and Perry have something to gain from these stories.  Romney is getting his first real taste of competition in the polls with Herman.  Perry has fallen so low in the polls over the past month that he may be getting desperate.  While his statement today on Fox News Sunday says that he understands that this is a marathon, not a sprint.  But he is at about 7% in the last national poll.

    Rick Perry also just hired new staff.  Staff that worked on the Rick Scott for Governor campaign.  That was a very dirty campaign.  These staffers are perfectly willing to get into the dirt to get their candidate elected.  Mitt has been running for president for more than four years.  He isn’t going to let it go as easily this time as he did in the last cycle.

    We don’t know what the truth of these allegations are.  We know that he did not ask for sex.  Apparently, the allegations are about comments he made that two women found objectionable.  Allegedly they were given cash settlements when leaving the employment of the association.  As a person who has worked in the non-profit world for many years, this is not uncommon.  It is normally much cheaper for the organization to pay the claim than to fight it in court.  The gag order put on the settlement is also a very common occurrence as well.

    I certainly hope that Perry or Romney are not behind these allegations.  I would hate to think that anyone would sink this low in order to win the primary.  But it isn’t something that is out the realm of possibility.  We now know that the Hillary Clinton campaign leaked many of the most damaging allegations against Obama to the right-wing press, because they didn’t feel they could release the information without being called racists.

    I would like to know where this information came from.  Don’t you?


    The Other McCain has this:

    This is from the Arizona state coordinator for the Perry campaign.  Although, one would think that they would be smarter to tweet this the day before the story comes out.


    But, if someone on the GOP side did bring out these charges; shame and ridicule must be brought down upon them.

    • SignPainterGuy 6:37 PM on 10/31/2011 Permalink | Reply

      Kind of a toss up; Cain doesn`t fit the mold of a dyed in the wool plantation democrat nor a Rochefeller wing big-gov. Republican either !

  • just a conservative girl 9:29 AM on 10/31/2011 Permalink | Reply
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    Quote of the Day Ann Coulter Edition 

    “..this isn’t dropping your pants and saying kiss it.”

    Ann Coulter on the allegations of Herman Cain committing acts of harassment on two women in the 90’s.

    I just heart her.


    She was fabulous.

  • just a conservative girl 8:43 PM on 10/29/2011 Permalink | Reply
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    Quote of the Day – Wesley Pruden Edition 

    The toxic reaction to Herman Cain’s hearty welcome to Republican and conservative ranks, his spectacular rise in the polling of Republican voters, is a grim preview of what lies ahead. The liberals (“progressives,” as they call themselves this year) are not actually frightened by the prospect of President Cain; they recognize, given the givens, the high improbability of that happening. What irks, galls, frustrates and infuriates the East Coast libsnobs is that the Republican embrace of the pizza man destroys the story line they want to reprise from 2008, that only bigots oppose President Obama.

    Wesley Pruden, writing for the Washington Times

  • just a conservative girl 6:49 PM on 10/28/2011 Permalink | Reply
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    Quote of the Day – Karen Finney Edition 

    “I think Herman is giving that base a free pass and I think they like him because they think he is a black man that knows his place.”

    Karen Finney, MSNBC Contributor.

    Many in the Tea Party thinks his place is in the White House.

    • fuzislippers 7:11 PM on 10/28/2011 Permalink | Reply

      Every word they say about Herman Cain reinforces my opinion that they accuse us of racism because they are the true racists. Who would think something like this, much less say it?

      • just a conservative girl 9:06 PM on 10/28/2011 Permalink | Reply

        Well what is really irritating is the fact that no matter we are still racists. If we didn’t like him it was because he is black. If we do like him it is because he a black man who we don’t consider a threat. It gives them an out because there is no way to win with them. We are racists no matter what, so they don’t have to ever move beyond it.

        • fuzislippers 10:28 PM on 10/28/2011 Permalink | Reply

          That’s standard leftist crap (think about the global warming hoax: if it’s hot, it’s global warming; if it’s cold, it’s global warming–typical illogic of unreasonable, ideologues who have no principles, no brains, and no honor).

      • Robert Curtis 8:41 PM on 10/29/2011 Permalink | Reply

        Herman Cain is dead beat whose candidacy is driven by the bankrupt conservative field who is also a paid lobbyist for the Koch brothers and isn’t really concerned about anything but selling as many books and he can get and generating speaking fees too. You need to read about the Enron scam one of his companies tried to run too.

    • SignPainterGuy 10:12 PM on 10/28/2011 Permalink | Reply

      In their minds EVERYONE thinks and does as they do. It`s just classic projection and Alinsky tactics: falsely accuse us of believing / doing precisely what they actually believe and do !

      Ridicule is our best defense, along with the truth !

    • Deeka 9:08 AM on 10/29/2011 Permalink | Reply

      Remember that to the Left, Herman Cain is not an “authentic” Black man. You know…unemployed, five kids with five women, gang member, welfare recipient, reliable Democrat voter and completely uninformed. That is the Leftist view of Blacks. And let’s add to this that the Left always wants to eliminate “undesirables” and that definition ALWAYS includes “people of color”.

      • SignPainterGuy 11:12 AM on 10/29/2011 Permalink | Reply

        The irony is so ironic ! It`s thick as pea soup !

    • zillaoftheresistance 12:50 PM on 10/29/2011 Permalink | Reply

      They fail to realize that we love Herman not because of any hue to his his skin, but because he is effing awesome and has that indefatigable optimism that Reagan had and nobody in politics has shown since! BTW he did an interview with an Israeli magazine that alleviates the reservations I’d had about him on the only issue that matters to me more than any other, so I am happily on the Cain Train. Rick Santorum turned me off with his snide remarks to and about Herman Cain, it made him look petty & mean and we already have THAT in the White House!
      Herman is a smart man who learns quickly; he will do fine in office, as he is already educating himself and getting up to speed in any areas where he’d previously been not quite up to par.

      • SignPainterGuy 7:58 PM on 10/29/2011 Permalink | Reply

        Herman Cain was one of the very, VERY few politicians (he`s running for pres. so he`s a pol. now) who said they were going to Israel with Glenn Beck who actually DID go ! Good for him for his support of Israel and for keeping his word !

  • just a conservative girl 9:01 AM on 10/24/2011 Permalink | Reply
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    The Vision Statement Reads……….. 

    I was looking something up and came across this:

    Dr. King championed a movement that draws fully from the deep well of America’s potential for freedom, opportunity, and justice. His vision of America is captured in his message of hope and possibility for a future anchored in dignity, sensitivity, and mutual respect; a message that challenges each of us to recognize that America’s true strength lies in its diversity of talents. The vision of a memorial in honor of Martin Luther King, Jr. is one that captures the essence of his message, a message in which he so eloquently affirms the commanding tenants of the American Dream – Freedom, Democracy and Opportunity for All; a noble quest that gained him the Nobel Peace Prize and one that continues to influence people and societies throughout the world. Upon reflection, we are reminded that Dr. King’s lifelong dedication to the idea of achieving human dignity through global relationships of well being has served to instill a broader and deeper sense of duty within each of us— a duty to be both responsible citizens and conscientious stewards of freedom and democracy

    This is the Vision Statement for the Dr. King Memorial that recently was dedicated in Washington, DC.

    You read this and then listen to the statements by “black” leaders talking about Herman Cain and you just have to shake your head.  Jesse Jackson watched Dr. King die.  Al Sharpton seems to liken himself to being the next generation that is keeping Dr. King’s legacy alive.

    What a shame that have totally missed his entire message.  They are too steeped in victimhood to see that Justice Clarence Thomas and Herman Cain achieved exactly what Dr. King wanted them to achieve.  They found dignity in their belief systems and have the courage to stand by them, even when the race baitors of the world try to tear them down.

    Cross Posted at Pundit Press




    • SignPainterGuy 12:52 PM on 10/24/2011 Permalink | Reply

      Even in the mid-`60s when Dr. King made this “Vision Statement”, some blacks misunderstood or mistranslated it to mean more of an empowerment thing, an opportunity to revolt. It was scary then, and has only gotten worse. Some of his own people didn`t hear what he really said ! The message was hijacked almost immediately !

  • just a conservative girl 10:12 PM on 10/21/2011 Permalink | Reply
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    The Case Against Herman Cain 

    I remember listening to Herman Cain speak about 18 months ago.  After his speech, he walked off the stage only to return a few seconds later and mentioned that a “dark horse” just may be running for president.  I told everyone and anyone who would listen; Herman Cain was the man to be POTUS. 

    When he officially announced his candidacy, I drove all night to get to Atlanta to watch it live.  Again, I told everyone and anyone; Herman is the man.  Well, time has passed and I realize just how wrong I was. 

    The majority of his appearances on Fox News Sunday have been a disaster.  At the time I was willing to give him a pass on not knowing or understanding the Palestinian desire for the right of return to agree to a two state solution.  I was thinking, I didn’t understand how he didn’t know what it was, but OK, it was one gaffe.  You fix it, then you move on. 

    We then can move onto another gaffe of his saying he wouldn’t allow a Muslim in his cabinet.  I do understand what he meant, but he certainly didn’t make it clear that he was specifically referring to people who believed that bringing forms of Sharia to the United States was a good thing.  His actual statement made him sound like a bigot.  Again, you fix it and you move on. 

    Then he starts talking about the mosque in Tennessee that some are opposed to building.  He stated that communities can decide for themselves if they want to allow a mosque to be built.  He even went as far as to use a liberal talking point to make his case.  During this interview with Fox News Sunday he went to say this is how he would solve problems as president.  The problem is that he never spoke to those in the community that were not opposed to building of the center.  We already have a president who surrounds himself with people who agree with him and tell him what he already believes.  Do we really want another one? 

    We now can move onto this latest statements on abortion.  I personally don’t vote based on the abortion issue.  But, many in the conservative base do.  For some, it is a deal breaker.  Rick Santorum made his view on Herman’s statement very clear.  He either believes that life begins at conception or he doesn’t.  You don’t get to say it is not life if it is conceived during rape or incest but life all the rest of the time.  Life is life.  There is no other way around it. 

    We also have heard that he would entertain trading Gitmo prisoners for a captured soldier like Israel sometimes does.  Really?  How many soldier’s lives would be put into danger if the U.S. started to dealing with terrorists in this fashion?  Is KSM one he would trade?  This statement is so incredibly stupid, I can’t even come up with the words to describe my disappointment. 

    I have met Mr. Cain on several occasions.  I think he is a good man who truly has the best interests of this country at heart.  He wants to see his children and grandchildren to have the same opportunities at the American dream that he was able to have.  He is a very smart man who possess very good business skills.  But, that does not make him capable of being President of the United States.  He isn’t even really capable of getting the VP nod.  There are plenty of cabinet positions that he would be very well suited for. 

    The conservatives can not and should not entertain the idea of putting a man on the ticket who doesn’t have the proper qualifications to do the job, especially when one of the main arguments against Obama is that he isn’t up to the task.  The American people deserve  better.  We deserve a president that is capable.  Sadly, Herman Cain is not that man. 

    Cross Posted at Pundit Press and just a conservative girl

    • Ralph 10:40 PM on 10/21/2011 Permalink | Reply

      You are absolutely wrong. Yes Herman has made a few mistakes – nothing serious and certainly nothing worse than any other person who has run or been president. He will also get better as he gains more experience. Compare him to Obama who makes gaffe after gaffe and he has been president for three years. Shall I list them? How about just one. There are not 57 states. How about all of Al Gores gaffes? He was the king. Cain, and all of the candidates should refuse to answer many of the stupid questions that those idiot “reporters” ask them. None of us know exactly how we would react under hypothetical situations (grandaughter being pregnant from rape for instance).

      • just a conservative girl 9:04 AM on 10/22/2011 Permalink | Reply

        This is not about verbal gaffes. As you say, anyone who is talking as much as someone who is running for president will make them. This is about being capable of doing the job. His understanding of foreign policy is so thin that he cannot be trusted to make the right choices. Do you really want a president that is willing to trade Gitmo detainee’s? I don’t think the military folks will be lining up to vote for him.

        • Ralph 11:33 AM on 10/22/2011 Permalink | Reply

          Herman violated one of his own basic rules on the Gitmo deal. He should not have answered the question. He clarified it later when he said that he needed all of the information before making a decision. I don’t fault any of the candidates for changing their ideas after they are elected. Candidates are not privy to much information that elected officials are and that info can make a big difference in their decisions. I have the utmost confidence in Herman Cain’s ability to make the right decision. Nobody could be worse than Barak Obama. All of the candidates should refuse to answer many of the baited questions that the so-called “newspeple” ask. I have less respect for “reporters” than I do for most politicians. They seem to think that their job is to catch a candidate in a mistake and they ask leading questions and try to bait them into misstatements. They are disgusting.

          • just a conservative girl 4:19 PM on 10/22/2011 Permalink | Reply

            The fact that he would consider negotiating with terrorists is enough to disqualify him in my eyes. I can’t imagine that not being a game ender for anyone. Do you really want a president who would consider negotiating with the likes of Zwahiri? America does not negotiate with terrorists. End of statement. It was a very easy question to answer.

    • SignPainterGuy 11:04 PM on 10/21/2011 Permalink | Reply

      You make some good points in the negative for Herman, they disturb me as well. I too have seen him as my fave since spring at least. He has tried to explain or explain away his “mis-statements” and I want to mark them up as proof that he is not a politician, certainly not one so polished as Romney, for instance.

      Here`s where I am; we have all been disgusted with biz as usual from all the beltway insiders. Herm is an outsider, biz whiz, a problem solver and a quick learner.

      Cain, Bachmann and Santorum are the only true conservatives in the mix. Two are polling abysmally low. Bachmann just lost her entire NH staff. Looking bad for her. I don`t know why Santorum`s numbers are so pitiful, I like and agree with most of his ideas and record. Cain is leading in the polls and scaring the crap out of the left ….. and the RNC too ! That speaks volumes and I just told them so on their plea for money thinly veiled as a “survey”.

      I`m sayin` I`m not ready to give up on Cain yet, warts and all, `cause that leaves rinos Romney and Perry, both bother me greatly, and the libertarian loon masquerading as a republican – Paul. No. Thanks. !

  • just a conservative girl 7:27 PM on 10/15/2011 Permalink | Reply
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    Picture of the Day 

    • SignPainterGuy 7:50 PM on 10/15/2011 Permalink | Reply

      Beat Oblamer with a CAIN !!

  • just a conservative girl 11:34 AM on 10/13/2011 Permalink | Reply
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    Is Herman Cain Redefining Race Relations? 

    Herman Cain is resonating and creating a stir across the United States.  Mr. Cain doesn’t fit the typical mode of a black conservative since he has lived his life in the black community.  At least this is part of the argument that some have used.  I suppose to the liberal mind being married to a black women and being conservative is an unusual occurrence.  Mr. Cain also was born and raised in the south during the times of Jim Crowe.  He has seen racism.  He was turned away from the college of his choice due strictly to race. 

     The black liberal talking heads are ready to explode due one statement made by Cain recently,

     “believe there is racism in this country today that holds anybody back in a big way.”

    The response to this has been quick.  Race baiter Cornell West believes that he is trivializing a serious issue.  Now, Mr. Cain is not saying that racism doesn’t exist.  He is saying that over the course of his lifetime the chances of being held back strictly based on race is much less now than at the time of his youth.  Cornell West lives his life inside the bubble of “I am black, therefore I am victim”.  His entire world view is based on his color and race relations.  The simple act of going to grocery store has racial implications to him.  Mr. Cain on the other hand lives his life like he is a human being who happens to be black.  He knows what true racism is, as he has seen it.  But, he has also seen his parents achieve the level of success that they were looking to reach.  Owning a home and having the money to send their children to college was the dream that they worked towards.  Today, this man’s son is a potential nominee to run for the President of the United States.  I would say that we have come a long way baby.  I am sure that Cain’s parents didn’t dream this scenario. 

     Juan Williams has gotten into the conversation as well:

    “Right on, brother. And I’ll tell you why I say ‘right on.’ Because West, Tavis Smiley, those guys are threatened by the success of Herman Cain. And I think that they feel that anybody who doesn’t buy into all the racism charges that they’re constantly- You know, in their world, President Obama doesn’t exist. You know, these are the same people who criticize Obama for not being sufficient. So imagine the way they feel.”

    Think of Al Sharpton, who makes his living playing the victim, if we become a more colorblind society how does Sharpton continue his ways?  People like West, Smiley, Sharpton, Jackson, and others will have to find a new thing to complain about and find other ways to hustle people for money.  These are the same people who seem to ignore that our country has elected a person of color to the highest office in the land.  We weren’t racist on that day, but every day before and since. 

     Herman Cain is redefining what being black in America is all about.  He is reaching out and Middle America is seeing for themselves that the illusion the GOP is full of racists was just that, an illusion.  They are terrified that people who fill their coffers are no longer to going to quite so willing to go along if the true story comes out. 

     The true story is that most people in this country have gotten past skin color and have moved on.  We are interested in living our own lives and could care less if the person who moves in next door has more pigment in their skin than they do.  We are more interested in actually fixing the problems in our country than continually pointing the finger at who is blame for it. 

     Herman Cain is not trivializing race relations in this country, he is redefining them.  That is all too scary of a proposition to the hustlers who make a very good living off liberal white guilt.

  • just a conservative girl 11:47 PM on 10/11/2011 Permalink | Reply
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    GOP Bloomberg/Washington Post Debate 

    I personally really liked the format.  The candidates seemed much more human in a way.  It seemed much more like a conversation this way.  After all, we are trying to decide who will represent the party and run for the presidency.  Americans want someone they feel like they can relate with to a certain extent. 

    Jon Huntsman is a very rude man.  I really didn’t like the dig to Perry on the Mormon comments.  While I understand that since he is a Mormon, he felt disrespected by the comments, but Perry did not make them.  It made him seem small and petty. 

    Gov. Perry had the perfect opportunity to hit Romney on Romneycare tonight and punted.  He still seemed out of it and was far too defensive.  He had to hit it out of the park tonight and barely got up to bat.  Where’s the fork?  He is done. 

    Romney really interested me tonight.  When they had the chance to ask questions to the other candidates I was very surprised by him choosing Michele Bachmann.  You would think he would go after Perry or Cain.  Voters that are partial to Bachmann are not going to vote for Romney in a primary setting.  As usual, he did no harm and kept most of his attacks towards Obama. 

    I thought Cain did damage to himself tonight by choosing Alan Greenspan as his model for Fed Chair.  Greenspan?  I have to fully agree with Ron Paul on this one; disaster.  Many of Greenspan’s policies helped lead to the financial meltdown we are having now, he kept the interest rates at artificially low rates which was a contributing factor to the mess we are in.  He was the biggest target tonight and handled it pretty well.  A few stumbles, but overall he did OK, although his defense of TARP is not something that most conservatives want to hear. 

    Rick Santorum didn’t get enough talking time.  But he isn’t a realistic top-tier candidate at this point. 

    Michele Bachmann did a better job tonight, she seemed focused and stayed on point.  Although, I think she needs to stop bringing up her 23 foster children so often.  It seems like she is trying to use to score points.  For some reason it doesn’t sit well with me.  She didn’t do enough to revive her campaign, but she will probably last until New Hampshire.  She will more than likely be on a few short lists for VP, although I find it unlikely she will get it. 

    Newt was the grown up in the room.  Again, he kept his focus on Obama and his policies.  I recently read a post on Legal Insurrection saying maybe it is time to give him another look.  The professor may be correct.  There are many things that I don’t like about him, but he has big ideas.  He is big picture guy and that may be what we need right now. 

    Ron Paul was Ron Paul.  Nothing really loony and some good points about the financial mess. 

    Overall, I would have to give the win to Romney.  But he has been running for president since 07, so he should be winning. 

    Biggest loser: Charlie Rose.  Does that man get enough sleep? 



    • SignPainterGuy 12:19 PM on 10/12/2011 Permalink | Reply

      Overall, I have to say I enjoyed the debate / QnA. The format did it, not NPR, WaPo, for sure. Lefties just don`t usually get the Christian / conservative mindset, so I quit looking or even hoping they suddenly will. Karen and the other girl, even Charlie got their smackdowns right off the bat, Bachmann first and then Newt not accepting the left`s premises, pointing the blame at the politicians who created the mess, not Big Banking and Corps. That was great !

      Yeah, Romney won by default as much as anything else by not being asked about his RomBamaScare consultants going to the WH and assisting in the writing of ObummerScare. He`s most polished, besides Newt, and just didn`t lose. I still don`t trust him to insist on complete repeal of OblamerScare.

      All the candidates made some good points, being centered on the economy, where most have experience and knowledge. Even Paul was un-loony. Newt was good and acted as a cheer leader for the whole panel.

      I agree that Huntsman was insulting; he isn`t pres. mat`l.

      Cain needs to tweak his single-ish issue 9-9-9 plan so it`s less harmful to those on fixed income, otherwise, it`s the only plan that restructures / simplifies the tax code, eliminates all loopholes, grants CERTAINTY to biz owners so they know what`s coming, they can adapt and get back to biz. When he selected Greenspan as his rolemodel for a fed ch., I took it to mean “A.G. of the `90s”, not his later yrs. I hope so, cause A.G. was a disaster later. That may be bad for Herm. Still my favorite though !

      Bachmann`s point that adding a new revenue stream for congress (nat`l sales tax) would be next to impossible to remove later has much merit.

      I think the biggest loser was Karen Tumulty. An MBA from Haahvud and still believes in Keynesian economics and caught a polite smackdown with most of her questions.

      • just a conservative girl 7:12 PM on 10/12/2011 Permalink | Reply

        According to Cain his plan is to require a two third majority to make any changes to it. Which will be very difficult, if not impossible, to get.

        Let’s say he becomes the next president, not a scenario that I feel is likely, but if he does, it will never pass into law anyway.

        His entire point is to get the country to a flat tax. But if he calls it a flat tax he will be laughed at.

        • SignPainterGuy 10:26 PM on 10/12/2011 Permalink | Reply

          Purely coincidentally, I just left his website; Phase II is the “Fair Tax”. The “Flat” tax is still “income” tax. The “Fair” tax is a sales tax, not a tax on income, but a consumption tax, tax on what you spend, not on money earned, which is punitive and invasive by way of the requirements to report from whom, how, where, doing what, you earned your money. IMO, none of the gov`s business ! The Fair tax works IF the IRS is eliminated. A dream of mine !

          No guarantee it would pass, but it`s the best idea offered so far, again, IMO !

  • just a conservative girl 10:21 PM on 10/09/2011 Permalink | Reply
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    Quote of the Day – Karen Hunter Edition 

    He [Herman Cain] is not Clarence Thomas. He’s not Alan Keyes. He’s not the stereotypical or typical sell-out black person who’s pandering to white people. This man is married to a black woman, raising black kids and in his mind is authentically black, went to Morehouse [College]. This is not the typical and I’m gonna tell you Rev, there’s gonna be a lot of people, the more he gets out there and talks.

    Karen Hunter and Al Sharpton debating if Herman Cain is black enough. 

    I will say it yet again, how come the republicans get called the racist ones? 

    I am sure that Mr. Cain is thankful that they said he thinks he really black. 


  • just a conservative girl 8:45 PM on 08/12/2011 Permalink | Reply
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    The GOP Debate – My View 

    Most people more than likely could care less what I think, but since I blog I am going to put it out there anyway. 

    The overall grades –

    A- to Rick Santorum.  To me hands down he won the night.  Now, I don’t think it will change the fact that he has little to no chance of getting the nomination, but he did very well.  He can very proud of his performance. 

    B+ Mitt Romney.  He walked away unscathed, which I am sure was his goal for the night.  Iowa is going to be very difficult for him to win.  But I am going to downgrade him to a B- because the truth is he didn’t answer many questions, he did a great deal of evading.

    B- Herman Cain – I think Herman did very well through most of it.  He got a little defensive with Chris Wallace when asked about some of his Fox News Sunday appearances.  But, he laid out some specifics on certain things, something he has not done much of in the past.  But he needed to hit it out of the park to give himself a better chance in the Straw Poll on Saturday.  He did not accomplish that. 

    C Michele Bachmann – She didn’t do as well in this debate as she did in the last.  She too was a little defensive on certain items.  The back and forth with Pawlenty I think actually hurt her.  She should have taken the high road and instead punched back.  Some found it refreshing, I personally found it rude.  She was asked a question about her husband’s role in her White House.  Many found it to be unfair, again I am in the minority and didn’t find the question unfair.  It wasn’t all that different from the questions we were asking about Bill Clinton’s role in a Hillary White House.  Spouses talk to each other about their jobs, it isn’t unreasonable to question what type of role that spouse will play.  I personally don’t want an activist spouse, as they were not elected. 

    C Tim Pawlenty Pawlenty was another one that needed to hit it out of the park and did not.  I personally find Pawlenty to be a good general election candidate, but the primary is going to be a little difficult for him.  He is the Anti-Obama in certain ways, that I think would translate well with independents, but not very well with GOP primary voters.  He must do well this weekend in the straw poll, or his candidacy is all but over.  I think he will be one of the first to drop out. 

    C- Newt Gingrich Newt found a way to look like a brilliant strategist and all out bafoon all in one evening.  He came across as angry and defensive.  He called out Chris Wallace for asking “Gotcha” questions.  Sorry Newt, but if you can’t run a campaign you certainly are capable of running a super power that is in major crisis.  I think he won’t be too far behind Pawlenty in dropping out.

    F John Huntsman  He barely answered the questions.  He kept referring to his record as Governor of Utah.  Excuse Mr. Huntsman, but I don’t live in Utah and don’t know what the record is.  If you want me to judge you on that record, the very least you can do is tell me what it is. 

    F Ron Paul I would give him a lower grade if one existed.  While I agree with Paul on many fiscal issues, his answer to Iran was downright scary.  A person who believes that a nuclear armed Iran is not a danger to the United States cannot be president.  Doesn’t Iran call us the Great Satan?  I think they do.  Some of the extremist Muslims in Iran have no respect for human life, Jihad is a great calling as far as they are concerned so killing large groups of people is nothing to them.  One of the main jobs of the President is to provide national security to the country.  A Paul presidency would embolden our enemies and make us a target. 

    Here is a good clip on Iran.

    This was classic.  Paul fans think he got the best of Santorum on this, I don’t happen to agree.

    • SignPainterGuy 11:39 PM on 08/12/2011 Permalink | Reply

      I`m with you on Santorum`s grade, he did very well and I give him the win as well.

      How so many pundits could give the win to Romney is a dead giveaway to his “rino / GOP / It`s my turn” connections. At best AFAIC, he just didn`t lose ! C at best.

      Cain did well for me; Good econ. solutions, but I wish he`d suggested lowering corp. tax rates to ZERO instead of 25%. (customers pay ALL business expenses) Biz is nuthin` w/o customers. B+

      Bachmann and T-Paw were sicked on ea. other by Wallace; better that inter-panel attacks had not been a feature, but Chris started it anyway. Bachmann`s answer to York`s dorky Q about submission…..really unnecessary ! What did he want, “Yes Byron, I head for the mattress any time Mark points and snaps his fingers !” ? She is a monument to class in my book ! B+

      T_Paw, not a fan; he looks to be the GOP pick for Romney`s VP, so not a serious pres candidate, came across as a bit nastier toward Michele than she to him (IMO). C+ (being generous)

      Gingrich smacked-down Brett (representing the MSM) like we`ve all wanted to hear from pols forever. I`m not gonna cut him for that. He has many good ideas and can articulate them well and did. He has proven himself to be a rino; NO RINOS for me; I can`t trust him though I really wish I could.A- for articulation / C for trust.

      Huntsman can go home now, nuff said ! F Why was he even there ?

      Ron Paul is a serious mental case. He makes sense for about as long as it takes to say, “Ron Paul makes sense !” Then he`s OFF THE RESERVATION ! He does have some good econ ideas, but his loonacy regarding Nat`l threats is too scary. Advisory role only. D-

      Bachmann. Cain and Santorum are the only 3 I`m considering among those who`ve announced and may later, except Palin, who I`d rather see as GOP Chair.

      • just a conservative girl 5:26 PM on 08/13/2011 Permalink | Reply

        You think you are making joke about what some people think that submissive to your husband means. Your joke is the reason that the question needed to be asked. Many in this country don’t understand what the bibical meaning of submissive to your husband means. York did the right thing in asking the question. She handled the question very well, but it is a discussion that needs to happen in this country. The far left feminists will never get it, but others can made to understand how I view myself as a Christian wife.

        • SignPainterGuy 12:45 AM on 08/15/2011 Permalink | Reply

          No, ma`am, I didn`t really mean it as a joke…….I meant more as a wise crack at Byron….. I meant it as a demonstration, as you say, of what many Christians and probably most non-Christians think “submission” means. It goes far beyond that, but boils down to, after respect of each other`s opinions and ideas and desires, etc. have been discussed, it is the place of the husband, “The Head of the Household / Wife / Family”, to make the final decision, accepting the responsibility of that position. He is NOT the boss, NOT to be thought of as the most important, but, “The Head”. The wife is not less than or less important than the husband, Not to be “under” him, “behind him in step”, she is every bit as important, possessing all the value of the husband.

          Along with the command by GOD for the husband to be head of the wife / family, there is also the command to husbands “To love you wife” !

          I can only hope I`ve said it right; my pastor (mid `90s) worked hard to help our discipleship class to understand it.

          “Submission” is often misunderstood as “to cleave” unto your husband / wife.

          Byron may have been trying to determine if Michele would yield to her husband`s ideas were she to be elected Pres. if she and he differed in opinion …… By her reaction, “Thank you Byron for THAT question !”, indicating it was a bit embarrassing, so I felt he may have been confusing “Submit” with “Cleave unto him”. Was I entirely wrong ?

          Yes, Michele answered VERY WELL indeed ! As I said in the first post, she is a monument to class ! AND, I have no doubt, jacg, that you are yourself a monument to the Christian Wife !

  • just a conservative girl 10:31 PM on 06/13/2011 Permalink | Reply
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    The CNN Debate 

    Just some quick thoughts as I don’t have a great deal of time. 

     I think that Michele Bachman did a great job.  She sometimes has a habit of getting her facts a little mixed up, but not tonight.  She showed that she is able to stay on topic and answer questions with quick soundbites that get to the point. 

     I think that Tim Pawlenty was the big winner tonight.  He came across as likable, knowledgeable, and a good conservative.  Job well done. 

     Newt showed why he has been described as the brain or the idea guy.  He is in his element in a debate format and tonight was no exception.  The big downside was that he outright lied in my opinion.  He is sticking to his ridiculous story that what he said about Paul Ryan was taken out of context.  It was a live interview Newt, we ain’t buying what you are trying to sell with this one.  You just made yourself look dishonest. 

     Herman Cain I think was one of the biggest losers.  Not because of his answers, just that he wasn’t given much of a chance to speak.  The questions went mainly to Romney, Newt, and Pawlenty.  I guess these are the three that CNN has deigned the viable candidates for the nomination.  Overall his performance was strong, just not nearly enough face time. 

     Ron Paul was Ron Paul.  I agree with much of what he would do on fiscal policy, but he loses me on social issues and foreign policy. 

     Romney was doing his somersaults about Romneycare or as Pawlenty’s newest phrase Obamney Care.  Not happening Mitt.  I am not buying it, you seem unwilling to sign an all out repeal and nothing less is acceptable.  Screw this waiver idea of yours. 

     Rick Santorum also did pretty well, he showed he can debate with the rest of the field.  Santorum is out for me, I will not vote for him even if he is the nominee so I don’t really care what he has to say. 

     What I did find refreshing is that they talked about some of the third rail topics.  Ethanol and entitlement reform.  We need to open and honest to the American people, we are broke and it is time we take on the tough and scary subjects.  We are almost out of road and can no longer just the kick the can.  The right needs to talk openly and honestly about these topics and not allow the media and the left to turn this into throwing granny over the cliff scenario.  Oh, wait they already did that. 

     What are your thoughts? 

    • zillaoftheresistance 7:14 AM on 06/14/2011 Permalink | Reply

      What do you have against Rick Santorum?

      • just a conservative girl 9:33 AM on 06/14/2011 Permalink | Reply

        Nothing against him. I won’t vote for anyone who has young children. I seriously question the judgement of anyone who would purposely put their young kids in that fishbowl. Not a healthy environment for them to grow up in.

        Old fashioned idea, yes. Out of the mainstream, yes. But it is a principle I believe in. No young kids in the White House.

        • zillaoftheresistance 8:07 PM on 06/14/2011 Permalink | Reply

          So if he were the nominee would you not vote, vote for Obama, or go 3rd party? I’m voting to get Obama out of the White House, even if I have to hold my nose to vote for a GOP ticket that I don’t like. Obama is too danged destructive, we can’t survive another 4 years of him.

          • just a conservative girl 8:48 PM on 06/14/2011 Permalink | Reply

            I wouldn’t vote for Obama. 3rd Party is pretty hard in Virginia, so I guess I wouldn’t vote. I have the luxury of it being a red state. Yes, it went to Obama last time but that was an abhorition. So I am not all that worried about it.

            But I will NOT bend on this principle. Family is the bedrock of our society and should be only second to God. If someone doesn’t put the well being of their child first, than they don’t deserve my vote.

            • zillaoftheresistance 9:22 PM on 06/14/2011 Permalink | Reply

              So no Sarah Palin for you then. Are Cain’s kids grown? What about Bachmann? I know she’s got a lot of kids but I don’t know their ages.

              • just a conservative girl 10:36 PM on 06/14/2011 Permalink | Reply

                Palin is out. Cain is grandpa so his kids are older. Bachmann’s are all grown as well. The only other one that may be an issue for me could be Pawlenty. I think his kids are right at the age that I would vote for them. I think they are all teenagers. Which to me is still a little young, but at least they have a better comprehension of things at that age.

    • Obi's Sister 8:26 PM on 06/14/2011 Permalink | Reply

      I was pleased that they didn’t attack each other. Obama MUST BE A ONE-TERM PRESIDENT.

      • just a conservative girl 10:37 PM on 06/14/2011 Permalink | Reply

        Me too. Pawlenty got quite a bit of pushback today for not going after Romney, but I think there is still time for that. Especially since you consider that Romney is wimping out for the Iowa straw poll.

  • just a conservative girl 11:29 AM on 03/16/2011 Permalink | Reply
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    Finally, A Presidential Candidate Speaking the Truth about Planned Parenthood’s Origins 

    It is no secret that I not only heart Herman Cain, but I firmly believe that he would make an excellent president.  There are many things about his candidacy that make him a very long shot indeed.  But, he is going to make it interesting, that is for sure.  He is completely willing to speak the truth and let the chips fall where they may.

    During a recent event at The Heritage Foundation Mr. Cain was asked about defunding Planned Parenthood.  Herman saw his chance to talk about Margaret Sanger and he took it. 

    “You probably don’t hear a lot of people talking about this, when Margaret Sanger – check my history – started Planned Parenthood, the objective was to put these centers in primarily black communities so they could help kill black babies before they came into the world.”

    “It’s planned genocide,”

    “It’s carrying out its original mission, I’ve talked to young girls who go in there, and they [Planned Parenthood] don’t talk about how you plan parenthood. They don’t talk about adoption as an option. They don’t say, ‘Well, bring your parents in so we can sit down and talk with you, and counsel with you before you make this decision.’”

    Of course this is not going to be a popular view in some quarters, the reason it is important is the fact that so many young woman (and men for that matter) don’t understand the history of Planned Parenthood.  They don’t understand how and why it was founded.  I firmly believe that if someone is going to support Planned Parenthood they need to know the facts behind the origins. 

    The numbers speak for themselves.  The black community is almost half the size it would be due to abortion.  It is time that someone in the black community address this issue.  If it were not so taboo to be pro-life on the left the race baiters in our society would be outraged by these numbers. 

    This passage is a favorite of modern Christian conservatives seeking to discredit Planned Parenthood, but in a previous time, it was employed to great effect by black activists. Radical professor Angela Davis quoted the provocative wording in her 1983 book, saying the Negro Project “confirmed the ideological victory of the racism associated with eugenic ideas.” A decade earlier, a certain “up and doing” black preacher drew on the same material in rejecting legalized abortion as little more than “black genocide.” His name was Jesse Louis Jackson.
    Al Sharpton does verbal gymnastics to avoid actually addressing the reality of the numbers of abortions done in the black community.  He refuses to address the issue he will only say that abortion is a civil right.  Justice Ginsberg doesn’t hide her views of what she thought the outcome of Roe V. Wade was based on:
    “Frankly, I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of. So that Roe was going to be then set up for Medicaid funding for abortion. Which some people felt would risk coercing women into having abortions when they didn’t really want them. But when the court decided McRae, the case came out the other way. And then I realized that my perception of it had been altogether wrong.”
    In her own words, a Supreme Court Justice is saying that she believed that Roe was decided to control populations that “we” don’t want to have too many of.  Which population is that and who gets decide what is “too many”? 
    Herman Cain has stood up and caused a stir.  A stir that may just allow us to get out some of the facts of the history of abortion in this country and the dark history of Planned Parenthood.  Should we really be using tax dollars to fund an organization with such a history? 
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