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  • just a conservative girl 10:21 AM on 12/20/2013 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: a&e, censorship, , duck dynasty, , , homosexuality, paglia, robertson,   

    A&E and the Dangers of Political Correctness 

    I will say at the offset I have never seen Duck Dynasty nor do I plan to.   It doesn’t seem like something that I would be all that interested in enough to spend a half hour of my life sitting in front of the television for.  I have heard of the family and seen pictures of him with various people, but I really know very little about the show except it has something to do with duck hunting.

    A&E has decided that it goes against their values to employ someone who holds a biblical worldview on sin.  You can disagree with the premise all you like, but it doesn’t change what the bible says.  Homosexuality is a sin according to Christian belief.  I fully understand that there are churches out there that ignore that and have no problem with openly gay clergy and will marry same-sex couples.  That still doesn’t change what the bible says about it.

    Phil Robertson gave an interview with GQ Magazine.  During that interview he was asked a question on his view of homosexuality.  He answered the question coming from a biblical point of view.  He is a person who believes that the bible is the living word of God.  Yes his words may have been crude, but they were not bigoted, nor did he liken homosexuality to having sex with a goat.  He simply gave a list of things that are sinful, he also included having heterosexual sex outside of marriage in his list.

    “Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men.”

    All he said is that sex outside the confines of  traditional marriage is sinful, which according to the bible is.  That shouldn’t be up for debate.  Again, you can feel that the bible is outdated, fake, or anything that you may feel about it, but it doesn’t change what scripture says.  If you are to follow the bible and its teachings you shouldn’t be having sex of any kind outside of traditional marriage.  Once you do that, you are committing a sin.

    Another part of his quote gets left out in almost all of the media coverage:

    “We never, ever judge someone on who’s going to heaven, hell. That’s the Almighty’s job. We just love ’em, give ’em the good news about Jesus—whether they’re homosexuals, drunks, terrorists. We let God sort ’em out later, you see what I’m saying?”

    Is it any wonder that this gets left out?  How can you say that he is “hating” on homosexuals if he says he is not judging them?  As a Christian it is part of your duty to spread the word of God.  People will do that in different ways and to different degrees.  But a true Christian never makes statements about someone else’s salvation and how God will ultimately judge a person and how they lived their life.  Not only isn’t that our job, it way above our pay grade.

    But of course the media coverage is he is a bigot, he is a hater, or he is some crazy right winged nut job.  He isn’t allowed to have a biblical worldview and share that openly.  That is something you must keep in the closet and act like it doesn’t exist.  Of course the same people who are hitting him hard have no problem with talking about homosexuality in sex ed classes geared to 6 year olds.  That is perfectly acceptable.  But don’t tell them the other side of the equation, oh no, you are a hater then.

    If activists for the gay community are as open-minded as they claim to be, they will have a debate on this topic.  But that isn’t what happens.  The debate gets shut off by people losing their income or labeled a bigot and a hater.  My gosh even feminist and openly gay Camille Paglia understands what is happening by these fanatics

    “utterly fascist & utterly Stalinist”

    Having a debate on the legalization of gay marriage is worth having in this country.  But it devolves into name calling and threats.  What does it say about people who say they are only trying to be accepted and have their rights protected by our society when they care none about the rights of those who believe otherwise?

    We have gotten to the point where any talk of religion must be closeted and must be whispered in the confines of your own home.  We have even gotten to the point that sometimes you can’t have a bible study in your home without interference, putting up Christmas lights on the outside of your home gets you a letter from your neighbors telling them how offended they are.

    That isn’t tolerance folks, that is tyranny.  This is how far we have fallen as a society; a major public university gives classes on the fine art of fellatio and that is deemed a perfectly acceptable use of tax payer funds for “educational” purposes, but a Christian man can’t give the biblical view that he tries to live his life by without losing income.

    A&E has every right to end their contract with Mr. Robertson.  They are a private business and they are under no restrictions constitutionally, as this isn’t a free speech or free religion issue.  The government isn’t interfering.  Just because A&E has the right to end his contract doesn’t mean that it should.  So far the sponsors of the show seem to understand what is at stake here and are standing on the right side.  The side that says he has a right to religious liberty and his viewpoints.

    A sad day in America.  A very sad day.

    • NotAScientist 10:53 AM on 12/20/2013 Permalink | Reply

      “Is it any wonder that this gets left out? ”

      Probably because he’s comparing homosexuals to terrorists and drunks. It’s probably better for his public profile for no one to report on that.

      “The side that says he has a right to religious liberty and his viewpoints.”

      Sure he does. He doesn’t have the right to be on a tv show, though.

      • just a conservative girl 3:46 PM on 12/20/2013 Permalink | Reply

        No he is saying that drunks, terrorists, and homosexuals will be judged on their behavior. He didn’t say that they homosexuals are terrorists or drunks.

        So let me get this straight according to your logic someone who owns a business who is a relgious person should be able to not hire someone who, like yourself, believes that gay marriage is a right? Because you don’t get to have it both ways. You can either employ people based on their personal points of view or you can’t.

        That is the danger of this action. It sets precedent for all kinds of hiring practices that I don’t think most people in this country would be all that comfortable with. They knew his worldview when they hired him. This isn’t the first time he talked about these types of topics. He is an outspoken Christian man.

        This allows a very small minority of people to make decisions about the financial well being of all kinds of Americans. All that accomplishes is shutting down debate. Which is exactly what they are trying to do. Shut and comply. No American should be ok with that.

        I didn’t think the man who yelled at the Chick Fil A girl should have lost his job. I disagreed with everything he said. I think Martin Bashir being forced to resign was also wrong. We are losing our rights to have opinions that others may disagree with. The really scary thing about that is what opinion can you then hold? We have more than 300 million people in this country, I think it would pretty near impossible to find something that everyone agrees on.

        • NotAScientist 7:50 AM on 12/21/2013 Permalink | Reply

          “You can either employ people based on their personal points of view or you can’t.”

          Wrong. Most jobs have nothing to do with expressing your personal views and being seen as a representative of the company you work for while you do so.

          TV star is not one of those jobs.

          Should a conservative Christian tv station be allowed to fire a pro gay star? Sure.

          • just a conservative girl 11:14 AM on 12/21/2013 Permalink | Reply

            Every employee is a representative of the company they are working for in some form or another. That is just reality. You just don’t like what he said and that is why you feel this way. Sadly you are not looking at the larger picture. This isn’t just about him, this is about a small minority of people being able to threaten people into silence, and therefore submission. No one should be ok with that.

  • just a conservative girl 12:25 PM on 04/30/2013 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: collins, homosexuality, ,   

    My Obligatory Someone (Sort of) Famous is Gay Post 

    Jason Collins, NBA player, has come out of the closet and announced to the world that he is gay.  My first reaction was yeah so.  It is not like people were under the impression that there has never been a gay athlete before.    It really isn’t like he is even the first to “come out”.  Martina Navratilova has been out of the closet for years and years, although she was outed by Billie Jean King who is also gay.  The sport of Ice Skating has many openly gay men.  The Olympic diver Greg Louganis has written a book about his life, including being in a gay abusive relationship and having the AIDS virus.  So why exactly this is such a big deal is beyond me.

    The oddest thing about all of this to me is that I am a HUGE NBA fan and I don’t know this guy from a hole in the wall.  The NBA playoffs are still in the first round at the moment (Go Knicks!!!!) so this was the talk during the pre, post, and half time shows.  It seems that most players are coming out as supportive.  But I wouldn’t expect anything else.  What other choice do they have?

    If they come out publicly against it they will be labeled a hater and a homophobe.  You see having views that homosexuality is wrong is bad.  It is intolerant.  You are a bigot.  You are a hater.  But I am sorry, there is no one in the world that can convince me that a person who may be uncomfortable in a dressing room where you are showering and dressing together makes you a homophobe.  No one would say a word if there were of opposite sexes.  That would be considered perfectly fine.  Why exactly are women and men uncomfortable showering and getting naked in front of each other in that type of setting?  SEX, that is why.  We cannot deny human sexuality and attraction exists simply so we can be open-minded and tolerant about homosexuality.  I would not be comfortable being in that type of environment in front of an openly gay woman any more than I would be in front of a man.  There is nothing wrong with that.

    But no NBA player will be able to say this openly.  Not if they know what is good for them.

    Ah yes, it is all about the tolerance.  Just ask Tim Tebow.  Openly Christian NFL Player.

  • just a conservative girl 10:41 AM on 04/04/2013 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: ambrosino, , falwell, homosexuality, liberty university   

    A Story of Christian Love – Being Gay at Liberty University 

    I came across a great article today on The Atlantic written by a former student who happens to be gay.  He grew up in a Christian conservative home, had a Christian conservative girlfriend during high school, made his way to Liberty University, then realized he could no longer hide his homosexuality.

    One would think that this article would be chock full of insults towards the university, its students, and professors.  That is what people would expect from those small-minded, homophobic people who “call themselves Christians” right?  It isn’t.  It is a story of the love and compassion he received from the students and staff at Liberty.  He goes as far to mention the late Jerry Falwell and says that he knows that even he wouldn’t have shown him “hate”.

    This was the reaction from the first professor he told:

    She got up from her chair, and rushed over to me. I braced myself for the lecture I was going to receive, for the insults she would hurl, for the ridicule I would endure. I knew how Christians were, and how they clung to their beliefs about homosexuals and Sodom and Gomorrah, and how disgusted they were by gay people. The tears fell more freely now because I really liked this teacher, and now I ruined our relationship.

    “I love you,” she said. I stopped crying for a second and looked up at her. Here was this conservative, pro-life, pro-marriage woman who taught lectures like “The Biblical Basis for Studying Literature,” and here she was kneeling down on the floor next me, rubbing my back, and going against every stereotype I’d held about Bible-believing, right-leaning, gun-slinging Christians.

    When I heard her sniffle, I looked up at her. “It’s going to be ok,” she said. “You’re ok.” She nodded her head, squeezed my shoulder, and repeated, “I love you.”

    This is what people don’t understand, there is a huge difference between the action and the person.  As any good Christian will tell you, you hate the sin, but love the sinner.  Christianity is supposed to be about redemption and hope.  They will also tell you that they themselves fall short of God’s grace every single day and it is a constant struggle to try to walk with Christ everyday.  You will stumble, you will fall, and yes, you will fail.  The point being is that you continue to work towards it.  You get up everyday and admit you are sinner and try to be better.

    Look, I am not enough of a Pollyanna to say that their aren’t people who “hate” homosexuals.  Of course there are.  But let’s be honest here, not all of them are “Christians”.  People who have little to no faith in their life feel that way as well.  The “punishment” for homosexuality in the Muslim world is death.  So the problems that face gay people go way beyond Christians.  But if people really look they may be very surprised at what they find at places such as Liberty University:

    When people find out I underwent therapy at Jerry Falwell’s Christian college, they assume I went through something like gay reparative therapy. But that isn’t what happened. I saw two counselors at Liberty—Dr. Reeves also had me meet with Ryan, one of his grad students, once a week—and neither of them ever expressed an interest in “curing” me. Did they have an agenda? Yes. Their goal, which they were very honest about, was to help me to like myself, and to find peace with the real Brandon. I remember one time telling Dr. Reeves I felt like I was being a different Brandon to each person in my life. Dr. Reeves raised his eyebrows and asked, “Isn’t that exhausting?” Dr. Reeves and Ryan knew I was tired of hiding and lying, and living in fear and subjection to others’ opinions; and so they told me that I should try liking myself because, after all, I was a likable guy and they enjoyed spending time with me.

    I ended up sitting under Dr. Reeves and Ryan for three more years. Most gay people couldn’t be paid to attend Christian counseling. But me? Well, those sessions were the highlight of my week. Not only did I get to spill all of my juicy sex gossip (which I always did, usually just to try to gross them out… which never worked!) but I got to talk openly with two men who loved me for no other reason than being Brandon.

    I’m still friends with both of my counselors. Just yesterday, Ryan told me that when my partner and I come to visit, we’re always welcome to stay at his house.

    Living in Virginia and being involved with many Christian conservative movements I have met many who went to Liberty University.  I have heard the good and the bad about the place.  What I have never heard was one single student say was that they didn’t feel loved by the faculty and staff.

    I am so happy he had the bravery to tell his story and do so on a very left leaning site.

    RTR Here.

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