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  • just a conservative girl 6:30 PM on 08/15/2012 Permalink | Reply
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    Chains, Politics, Race, and VP Biden 

    All the political chatter today is about Vice President Biden’s remark

    “put y’all back in chains”

    But let’s looks the entire quote in context

    “Romney wants to, he said in the first 100 days, he’s going to let the big banks once again write their own rules. Unchain Wall Street. They’re going to put y’all back in chains,”

    To me these look very different when taken in full context.  He was using a metaphor.  A poor one may be, but a metaphor just the same.

    Much has been made of the fact that this took place in Danville, Va which is a city that has a population of almost 49% black.  This is what I find offensive.  If he had said this in a city that had a population that is say only 8% black it would have been different?  You can see from the pictures of the event that the crowd was diverse.

    What I find so offensive is that what I am hearing in this uproar is that apparently we are supposed to change our language depending on who were are talking to.  Does that mean that I am supposed to create a blog for hispanic readers, another for whites, and yet another for blacks?  That I am supposed to change the language I use for the point I am trying to make depending on the skin color of the reader?  That is really offensive to me.

    Is what he said stupid?  Of course it is.  But in full context it wasn’t racist.

    I do believe that Biden has some preconceived notions of things.  I think many will remember that he once made a comment about Indians and 7-11’s.  The fact of the matter is that in the area that I live in you would be hard pressed to find a 7-11 that didn’t have employees that are not of Indian descent.  What he said is true, at least in this area of the country.  That may not be true everywhere, but here it is.  So is that racism/bigotry?  No, it isn’t.  Maybe it isn’t polite to point it out, but that is about political correctness, not racism.

    See I am no fan of how everything we say and do in this country has to fit into some preconceived notion of being politically correct.  Who is it that makes these rules?  Because we all know that they are different for different people.  Had Paul Ryan used the same words the likes of Roland Martin would be the first one to screaming and yelling it was indeed racist.  Whereas today he is saying that it isn’t.  For once I actually agree with him that it was not a racist statement.

    We need to get past all this PC nonsense and realize that using the metaphor of chains has nothing to do with slavery.  It is a commonly used metaphor that covers all kinds of things.  I am sick to death of everything being labeled “offensive” or “racist”.  It is no more attractive when it comes from the right then when it comes from the left.

    I dare anyone who disagrees with me on this to look me in the eye and tell me honestly that you wouldn’t feel that had the exact same scenario happened to a politician you agree with, you wouldn’t be defending it and saying it wasn’t racist and people were over-reacting.  If you can’t do that, then stop playing the same “racist” card that has been played on us for the past four years.

    Is VP Biden a gaffe machine?  Oh, yes.  He is not the smartest tool in the shed, that is for sure.  He also has a habit of changing his dialect up a little bit depending on the crowd he is front of.  Which is offensive.  But there is no proof that VP Biden is a racist and that this comment was nothing more than metaphor of a theme that the right has been using for the past two years, of unshackling the private sector.  Could he have used a different word than chain?  Yea maybe.  But why should he have?  At some point we have to get beyond this nonsense and stop equating everything to race and slavery.

    Take it away Joe:

     
    • fuzislippers 11:27 PM on 08/15/2012 Permalink | Reply

      I can look you in the eye and, in good conscience, assure you that if Romney or Ryan started acting like a fake preacher, drawling “ya’ll,” and talking about putting people in chains, I’d be just as outraged. You’re missing, though, what I think is a key point here. Ryan and Romney can talk about “chains” because that’s what they actually believe poverty and government’s attack on personal responsibility and wealth-creation to be. They don’t walk around thinking about race 24/7; they believe in America and Americans. No hyphens, no identity politics. And yes, I’d be stunned to hear either of them do as Biden, Obama, and Hillary Clinton do and talk down to southerners, blacks, midwesterners, et al. by adopting phony accents and trying to adopt the speech patterns of their audience. This is par for the course for the phony leftists. They think it’s “relating” to the audience; it’s not. It’s insulting and patronizing. And hilarious. Have you seen the vids of Hillary and Obama doing it? Laugh out loud funny.

      But if you can really listen to that comment (listen to it, not read it) and NOT hear the racial overtones, I’m just stunned. We’re talking about the party of racial division, a party built on racial identity. We’re talking about people who think morning, noon, and night about race. We’re talking about people who actually believe that conservatives have a secret “code” for talking about race. We’re talking about people who work to divide and strike fear in the hearts of Americans of all races, religions, and income brackets. We’re talking about Barack Obama’s vice president. And yes, I sincerely believe that he meant to evoke the chains of slavery BECAUSE THAT’S WHAT THEY DO.

      • just a conservative girl 6:00 AM on 08/16/2012 Permalink | Reply

        I don’t deny they play racial politics. But the important question becomes, did the audience that he was taking to in real time think it was racial? I don’t believe that they have spoken to those people. If they have, I have not seen it. In many instances things sound much differently to a person watching from a distance instead of being there. Howard Dean’s scream being a good example. The people in the room didn’t think it was a big deal. I remember watching that in real time on TV and being horrified.

        My main point being they play racial politics because it works for them. By us jumping on that bandwagon we are continuing the cycle. I agree that the dialect thing is awful and condescending. But, if the people they are speaking to don’t mind, and they don’t seem to, there isn’t a whole we can do about it.

        I just find it offensive that I would have to change what I say because of skin color. We should be able to have grown up conversations without it being broken down by skin color. If we can’t do that, then they have accomplished their goal of dividing us into groups. That is a terrifying proposition.

        • fuzislippers 6:32 PM on 08/16/2012 Permalink | Reply

          This wasn’t some cozy little meeting behind closed doors. The audience to whom he was talking was national. It was televised. It was a campaign stop. This was intended to reinforce the RAAAACISM of republicans for a national audience, particularly to inflame the base and get some of the people who won’t vote to the polls. It was a strategy. And it was the same strategy these people always use: race-baiting, division, fear, hate.

          I’m not sure if you noticed, but they’ve already won that battle: Americans ARE divided into groups . . . by race, gender, sexual orientation, ideology, religion, income level, you name it. That’s done.

          What we have to do is win the war. And we won’t do that by insisting on “national dialogue” about race (or anything else) because that’s exactly what they want. In fact, that’s leftist language straight out of Alinsky designed to reinforce the division, not eliminate it. Every “dialogue” the left engages is in designed to do this; that’s why the more they “help” the poor, the more poor we get; the more they try to “help” women, the more dependent the model (see #Julia); the more . . . well, you get the picture.

          Conversations, grown up or otherwise, are worthless. Plain and simple. The only way to roll this back is through long, hard work. The same sort of work they put into dividing us. We need to take back our American-ness, stop the socio-cultural norm of urging people to split their loyalties (African-American, etc. does just that; it’s not an accident that the most powerful woman in America is an “Iranian-American.” If you think of yourself as that, to which country or continent are you bound, are you loyal, are you ready to defend?), take back our schools (it’s not an accident that public schools teach socialism, communism, and fascism–calling it “X justice” and “progressivism” and “liberalism”; it’s not an accident that divisions are taught, reinforced, and hammered into our children’s brains), take it all back, including entertainment and news. That’s what Breitbart was talking about when he talked about a culture war. It’s big. They’ve won too many battles, but the war is ours.

    • Don 2:46 AM on 08/16/2012 Permalink | Reply

      I agree Fuzi, there are blatant racial overtones in Biden’s remarks. I picked that up the first time I heard him say it. Plus, it was said in Danville which was the last capital city of the Confederacy. Putting anyone back in chains, given the place and his tone, is just low, nasty, racial gutter politics.

      If you look at the video of Biden saying this on youtube, you can see that it wasn’t an off the cuff remark. Dear ‘Ol Joe was using teleprompters.

      This was scripted.

  • just a conservative girl 4:33 PM on 07/23/2012 Permalink | Reply
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    Open Letter to VA State Senator Louise Lucas 

    Dear Ms. Lucas:

    I heard your comments about the upcoming presidential election and how Mitt Romney is appealing to the racist segment in society that is against President Obama due to his skin color.  Your exact statement was:

    “All of the folks who are saying ‘we don’t like Barack Obama,’ they can’t tell you any reason they don’t, because — let me say this first of all, President Barack Obama did not create the situation that has us in this economic mess that we’re in. Everybody knows that this stuff happened under President George Bush, and they’re trying to dump on the president. But those people — intelligent people understand that President Barack Obama did not create this mess, and the mess that was created could not be solved in two or three or four years. Intelligent people understand that.

    “But Mitt Romney will go out and try to play to the fringe by saying it’s all Barack Obama’s fault. But intelligent people know better. I listen to MSNBC. I listen to all the media outlets. And you know exactly where the slants and biases are coming from. But right thinking people know that this mess was not created by Barack Obama, and he’s done the very best job that anybody sitting in the White House could’ve done to try to pull us up out of the muck and mire that George W. Bush got us into.”

    I can give many reasons that I don’t like President Obama and not one of them has to do with his skin color.  I have three years worth of blogging about issues that I care deeply about that again have nothing to do with skin color.

    You make these statements without any regard to the people in this country that have real differences of opinion about how policy should be dealt with.  It makes no difference to you the people who I have in my life.  The people who I consider my loved ones, my close friends, the people who I genuinely care about.  You can’t be bothered to find those things out before you spew your racial comments.  Comments that are not meant to be the least bit helpful, but to further divide our country.

    You see Ms. Lucas, I am willing to concede that there are people who don’t like President Obama simply based on skin color.  Why is that you are so unwilling to concede that the vast majority of people who are not happy with the job performance of President Obama have differences in opinion regarding policy?  Could it be that you have nothing left to say and you can’t defend the policies?  Because it seems to me that is the most logical explanation.

    In your diatribe you even admitted that you couldn’t get your own children to see the racism that you seem to think permeates everything and everyone in this country.

    Frankly Ms. Lucas I am sick to death of people like you playing the race card.  It has long since reached its limit.  What you have done is make it next to impossible for the people who are truly victims of racism to get a fair hearing.  Your calling everything under the sun racism has done nothing but diminish the word to the point that it has virtually no meaning any longer.

    You would like to know what it is that I don’t like about President Obama?  Ok, here you go:

    1. Obamacare will not reduce healthcare costs in this country.  I will be paying more for insurance than in the past.  I was told I wouldn’t lose my health insurance if I was happy with it.  That was a lie, I did lose my insurance.  I am now paying close to 80% more than I was the day Obamacare was signed into law.
    2. The Stimulus package did little to actually stimulate the economy.  It was a payoff to democratic constituencies.  The next generation shouldn’t be saddled with that debt to make your union buddies happy.
    3. Yeah, I have a problem with guns being brought across the border and having two border agents lose their lives.  Why don’t you?
    4. Eric Holder is a disgrace.  He used his position to further political causes without regard to the law or our constitution.  His refusal to help Arizona with a law that the Supreme Court says is perfectly consitutional is proof of that.
    5. President Obama using executive privilege to save Eric Holder’s ass is disgraceful and illegal.
    6. President Obama has skirted around the legislature in order to pass his so-called Dream Act.  It matters none to him that is an issue that has to be passed into law through congress.

    Those are things that simply jumped to the front of my mind.  I could come up with hundreds of others.  My opposition to President Obama has nothing to do with his skin.  It has to do with his policies.  My objection to you is that you are a small-minded idiot that thinks that dividing people will score you cheap political points.

    The economy is awful.  The spending is out of control.  We have more people on disability then those living in the City of New York, and record numbers on food stamps.  Unemployment has not been below 8% since the President took office.  We were told if that we spent almost a billion most borrowed dollars we would never reach that point.

    We continue to rise the debt limit so that President Obama and his buddies like you continue to spend money we don’t have.

    You want to come at people who oppose the President with facts, than have at it.  I am willing to debate you on that.  But until that time, please go crawl under a rock.  We don’t need to hear from the likes of you of how racist this country is.

    What you are saying is that President Obama is perfect and deserves no criticism.  That is simply ridiculous. Had President Obama been a white man you would be the first in line to brink torches and pitchforks to The White House demanding an answer of what is going to be done for the 14% unemployment rate for blacks.  But you are the one who is showing your racist stripes by refusing to address this issue.  You are the one that can’t criticize a black man.  That is what is racist.  You give him a pass and treat him differently because he is black.  I simply treat him as bad president whose policies are failing.  You should try it sometime.  It is quite liberating.

     
    • John "KJ" Gibby SR 12:16 AM on 07/24/2012 Permalink | Reply

      Wow! What have I stumbled upon? I’m not sure what or whom I’m typing to. I apologize for my grammer, and other issues you’ll discover later on. I was sitting here watching Bil O]reilly when I heard the tape of Ms. Lucas’s rant. I thought my grammer, well, sorry. Heres another lie of Obama-Care. I became disabled in 2000. Been living on SSI, and Medi-Care is my health insurance. Not once have I applied for Food Stamps. If I keep my budget under controlled, don’t buy New Cars with all the works, the nicest clothing, jewelry, etc., I get by ok. I’ve not even looked at Medi-Caid, but lots of people tell me I should. I get bombarded with emails telling me I qualify for this Govt Program, and that one. The Foodstamp Attack isn’t limited to emails, I actually get these Pop-Ups telling me I should apply. How funny, our govt has spomeone writing programs to pop-up on some poor guys PC, so that I can get all the freebies, that cost more, well we know. Several Months ago I was typing with a TEA Party person. I suggested someone should just stop this madness. I said I would be willing to give 10% of my SSI every month for a year if it went to our debt, as long as there are no spending increase, even those every year our govt needs to increase spending increases. I was laughed at, just saying.
      Ms Lucas. I am receiving lowere benefits thanks to Obama-Care. My SSI check has decreased, to pay for Obama Care because my Medi-Care Costs went up, to pay for Obama-Care. I lost a Dr who had a choice, keep taking Mdei-Care Medi-Cade, or don’t. He made the obvious choice, and I lost my Dr of 15 years, TY Obama Care. Will you give 10% out of your income to pay for our debt Ms Lucas?
      My truck takes me to Dr appts, Winn Dixie, and other misc trips, like wal-mart. It’s not the best looking truck, but it’s what I can afford. Friends can’t believe its the poorest neighbor, the sickest neighbor, the only neighbor willing to take a cut to get rid of this debt. They look at me like I’m a freak of nature. I guess I dont fit the typical conservative. Obama-Care is just a small part of wht “our” president has done to show people the differece between extreme left thinking people. There’s not enough time for me to continue this path.
      Ms Lucas, you are the Racist. If my skins not dark, you won’t listen to me. You wouldnt do anything to help me. If my skin wasnt dark enough, you’d point your finger screaming “Racist!!” Just like you’re doing when you speak about Mr Romney. Just ask George Zimmerman. He’s not dark enough. There fore you call him a Racist that went out of his way to kill Trevon Martin. What’s going to happen when he’s found innocent? A Riot? Why? Just when was the last time a white person told you what to do? To think?
      My main issue Ms Lucas is simply this, my skin isnt dark enough because Geor Zimmermans is darker than mine, but my skin is Red’er. My mom brought me and my brothers up off the reservation saying in this Country you reep, what you soe. You work hard, you will get payed well. Never play the victom. Never stick your hand out. If you need aid, get it, but not when you don’t. You see Ms Lucas, I live on a budget. I have a nice truck. I have a roof over my head. I have food in my fridge, and cabinets. I payed for my benefits, and I won’t take more that I dont need because I am from a Proud Race. If anyone has a rite to point fingers, it’s not Blacks in this country. Your Liberal thinking has caused 2 things to happen. The don’t haves, you know, your Race, have less. And the do haves, are the only ones getting more. I once owned a successful business until my health crashed. Last year I started up a hobby. By the end of this year I’m thinking I can make enough money doing my hobby, to start paying taxes again. That;s my goal this year. No more SSI checks. No more Medi-Care. But I bet I will keep getting all these emails and pop-ups telling me to get “my share” of handouts. As my Mom would say Ms Lucas, the “Racists” makes the noise. Shut up and goto work son! KJ

    • Hoosier Tea Girl 10:39 PM on 07/24/2012 Permalink | Reply

      WOW–these are both excellent responses to Ms. Lucas’s racial diatribe. I just heard her on the Dennis Prager Show, and could hardly believe what was being said. Especially since it is coming from a State Senator. I can only imagine how sad the good people of Virginia are right now to realize she thinks she speaks for them. And oh my gosh, she was finally able to convince her children that people who vote against President Obama hate black people. In so doing, she has just taught her children to hate white people. As long as people such as she espouses such beliefs, what racism exists in this country against any and all ethnic groups, will continue. I choose not to vote for President Obama because he has been and will continue to be a disaster for this country. He and his Administration fight the states if they try to enforce federal laws that the DOJ refuses to do. He has come out and said they will not enforce immigration laws; DOMA, and by illegal executive order is enacting Dream Act, even if not calling it that. I too must now pay more for my health insurance, but am thankful I have a job and can do so; have cut out lots of extras to do so. It is appalling that the President can look straight at us and with his teleprompter in full force tries to convince us we are better off than before he arrived. Give me a break. Talk to the average person on the street and what you hear are the following: better start storing food and prices will skyrocket; gas prices will continue to rise and no more vacations for the kids; how many of us will have a job by next year if he gets re-elected?, we have our homes and cars because we work 50-70 hours a week and don’t expect a handout, why should we be forced to give up what we have worked for to the ones who sit around protesting not having anything, but won’t get out and work for it. These are just a few of the statements heard this week from a wide variety of people. This, Ms. Lucas, is why I WILL BE VOTING FOR MITT ROMNEY IN NOVEMBER. He is a decent, honorable, hard working, family man who believes in the sanctity of life; not partial birth abortions as the President helped get adopted in Illinois as a Senator. Mr. Romney believes in an individual working hard and receiving rewards in the workplace for this hard work. He does not want everyone on welfare/food stamps. He and his lovely wife will finally restore patriotism and respect for the office of the President and the First Family. They will happily be invited to visit with dignitaries that have currently shunned us because of the ridiculous acts of the President and First Lady (remember the outrageous gifts given to the PM of Great Britain). Mr. President to be Mitt Romney will know how to approach visiting dignitaries and will be a voice for the great United States of America, not be ashamed of our greatness as the current President and his wife acknowledges. Shame on your Ms. Lucas, an elected ofificial, for speaking such gutter talk.
      I am saddened for your childen and for Virginia.

    • MomToNana 11:35 AM on 07/25/2012 Permalink | Reply

      All I can say is Thank You to “Just A Conservative Girl”, John “KJ” Gibby, Sr, and to Hoosier Tea Girl! Each of you said it all so well. Thank you, thank you. To Mr. Gibby, I commend you. I wish I could give you a hug. You touched my heart and all I can now to do is remember to pray and ask God to bless you abundantly each and every day.

    • Denise 8:50 PM on 07/25/2012 Permalink | Reply

      yes louise is correct, This country has not come to terms with the fact that a black man has finally gotten the change to run our country. Yes Obama has not kept his promises but, all these years, white men have ran this country and look at it, it is a mess. I am a black women who feels that black people will never get a fair change at least not in my life time and if you want to continue talking about this subject then I will be more then willing to meet you face to face.

      • just a conservative girl 8:08 PM on 08/07/2012 Permalink | Reply

        Bring it on Denise. I am social and fiscal conservative. Do you think I would like Obama’s policies if he were white? Because if not, your point is mute. I don’t like what Hillary Clinton is doing as SoS either. Do I hate white women too? Oh, by the way, when we meet face to face you can meet my husband and son. They look a whole more like you do than they do me. Do I hate them too?

      • Ednar 7:03 PM on 08/08/2012 Permalink | Reply

        Denise,
        It is Barack Hussein Obama that is a true racist. Remember, he attended the white-hate mongering church of Jeremiah Wright for 20 yrs listening to his diatribes of hate & the philosophies of the Black Liberation Theologies. Barack DID absolutely NOTHING as did Eric Holder when they allowed Spike Lee to give out the address to Zimmermans house via the internet. This exploded once Obama put in his two cents worth as he did with Prof. Gates, remember? The Black Panthers are one of the most racists suppressive violent groups out there & Jeremiah Wrights church also entertains the likes of Farrahkan from the Nation of Islam … another racist radical anti-white anti-American organization. Even Michelle Obama can NOT escape this! She wrote in her Princeton thesis her disdain for white people!
        We dont need a divider in the White House. We dont need an attorney either.
        We need a UNITER!
        We need a business man with common sense to work with all peoples from America!
        That leaves Obama OUT! He is inept, inexperienced, illegitimate & unqualified for another term as president. His next term should be in prison.

    • Howard in North Carolina 2:39 AM on 07/26/2012 Permalink | Reply

      Two Negro men were interviewed by a Caucasian news talk show host last evening. They were rational and very intelligent men. And I appreciated and applauded them for telling the real truth. They both agreed that it’s the resentful, hateful Negro people, like you, to a very large extent who are keeping racism alive in a very racially diverse country. Almost from the very founding of our country, the few original states had become the melting pot of people from all over the world. There a couple of Negro men who perpetuate racism – Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. If I were a Negro man, I would tell them to shut up because their day has past. But NO!!! When there is any controversy involving a Negro, they only make make matters worse for all Negro people. They show up on TV either in back of or elbow to elbow to the controversial person in the news. Their racial rants also perpetuate a racial divide among people, regardless of skin color, who have a common bond as an American. Yes, I still think many Negro people need to take “English as a Second Language” class. They are probably racists because they don’t want other people but their ‘bro’ to understand anything they discuss.

      My earliest ancestors came to this once great country in the 1640’s. They were peasant farmers from north part of United Kingdom. They came with nothing and survived with nothing. No, I’m not a pure Englishman. Through intermarriage of different peoples, I have English, Irish, German and Swedish blood in my veins. In my generation I have 4 male cousins who are married to women from 4 different countries. I will be the 5th man in my extended family when I marry a Russian woman later this year. I am 63, retired, have great health and will probably live until mid 90’s.

      God has truly blessed me. Not only with the brief things mentioned, but also painfully growing out of racial thoughts towards Negros. You see, when I was a young 6 year old boy, who unfortunately had a racist father, I would see him get out of his seat and turn off our TV when Sammy Davis, Jr. came on. I was taught to think like a racist at that young innocent age. Before seeing these things from my parents and many from their generation, I did not see color of skin.

      Ms. Lucas, I don’t mean to judge you or lecture you. But I will admit disliking your hateful speech on TV news. Not only did I have trouble believing what I was hearing from you, but your tone of voice was very disturbing. Not only were you lying about Obama’s policies, but even worse your are a teacher of racism. My father is 88 and no longer sees color. I was able to enjoy the freedom of not seeing color from my early 30’s. I have very good friends of all races in this country. and through the power of the Internet and Skype, I have made friends around our planet including China. I’m trying to set the stage to say I don’t hate you or particularly disrespect you. We have the joy of freedom of speech. There are more and more Democrats who are seeing Obama as the person he really is. I thank God that people realize more and more that Obama has no idea on how to lead the USA, has broken the law, intimidated the Supreme Court justices and runs a corrupt administration. I simply don’t understand why he has not been impeached to date. And why hasn’t his partner in crime, Eric Holder, been dismissed and prosecuted as an accessory to the murder of Americans with the gun running to Mexico. Our current “leadership” could not do a better job of destroying America if they tried.

      But we still are Americans who enjoy a government for the people by the people. Poetic justice will be served in November, but it’s too late for a quick fix. If we can find and elect moral leadership that respects our constitution and law and order consistently, we might need more than 2 decades to recover from the wreckage Obama has brought to the USA like a plague. Dear God, please forgive the wrong America has done to you by dismissal of prayer in school and showing you disrespect in many other stupid ways. And please, please bless America!

    • Ednar 8:16 PM on 07/30/2012 Permalink | Reply

      Dear Senator Lucas,
      May I ask HOW you became a Senator? My dear, do you not know that Barack Hussein Obama was sworn in to congress in 2005? He was part of the PROBLEM of our economic downturn that began January 3rd, 2007! Barack Obama voted 90% the way Nancy Pelosi wanted him to! Remember, Chris Dodd & Barney Franks? Both were their respective Congressional Banking Committees making the decisions to our countries economic woes! Barneys lover, Herb Moses, was CEO of Fannie Mae! Barney insisted there is NO need for regulatory reform as McCain & Bush had asked for!
      So you see, Senator Lucas … Barack Obama was part of this economic problem DURING THEW BUSH TENURE! He simply isnt experienced enough to know how to fix the problem because he is NOT a businessman & has never had enough experience as one! Leave these economic woes to those like Romney who are businessmen! Obama is an attorney. He only knows how to suck the blood from a rock! You are NOT thinking of this country or her heritage but are prejudiced to skin color. Skin color will NEVER bring us back our American pride. Maybe you ought to read, again, the words of Martin Luther King, the Republican.

  • just a conservative girl 1:21 PM on 07/13/2012 Permalink | Reply
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    TSA We Have a Problem – Texas Woman Gets on Plane to Testify That ID Requirements Disenfranchise Her Right to Vote 

    Yes, you read the correctly.  Victoria Rodriquez was one of two sisters that DOJ was able to identify as being disenfranchised if the Texas law requiring an ID were to stand.  She lives in Texas and the trial was in federal court in Washington, D.C..  Ms. Rodriquez is an 18-year-old college student who says that obtaining an ID is too big of a barrier for her in order to vote.  You see, she doesn’t own a car and she can’t get to the office to get her ID.  Her parents are too busy to drive her.

    So let me get this straight, she was able to get to the airport, board a plane, fly to Baltimore Maryland then take a connecting Amtrak train to get to court but can’t make it across town to get her ID.  Also, how did she get on the plane or the train?  Both require picture ID’s in order to board.

    Under oath she testified that she does have a social security card, a birth certificate, and a voter registration card.  One more form of ID than what is necessary in order to obtain the picture ID.

    Here are some other tidbits that came out during the trial:

    239 dead people voted on May 12, 2012 of those 213 of them did it in person.  Did anyone pass out from the smell?

    50,000 dead people are still on the voter rolls in Texas.

    394 people were removed from rolls due to not being citizens.

    Tavis County has not removed dead people from their rolls in five years.  A violation of federal law.

    Eighteen counties have more people registered to vote then residents.

    The DOJ did have some experts testify as the to the harm these laws will do.  It didn’t go all that well.

    23 people out of 36,500 surveyed said they were unable to case a vote due to ID laws.

    The DOJ’s expert said the following:

    “Voter identification is the controversy that isn’t. Almost no one is excluded by this requirement.”

    Over 70% of whites, blacks, and Hispanics support the requirement. Black and Hispanic voters did not express measurably less support for voter ID requirements than whites.”

    “These findings undercut much of the heated rhetoric that has inflated the debate over voter ID requirements in the United States.”

    “That almost no one is prevented from voting because of voter ID requirements casts doubt on arguments from the left that this amounts to a new poll tax or literacy test.”

    “The poll tax, literacy test, and other tools of the Jim Crow laws are powerful metaphors derived from a very ugly period in American history, but ID requirements in practice today bear only the palest resemblance to such discriminatory practices.”

    “These facts strongly suggest that there may be little or no voting rights issue involved in the dispute over voter ID rules, and no question of fraud either. This is hardly the stuff of the Civil Rights Movement, or the mid-1950s when only 25% of southern blacks were registered, and fewer still were allowed to vote.”

    Oh, but it gets better with the next witness:

    He believes that Sandra Day O’Connor wanted to pass laws that encouraged white supremacy in Shaw V. Reno as it upheld voter ID laws.  The problem is that opinion was actually written by Justice Stevens.  Ouch.

    He goes on:

    – Republican African-American and Hispanic legislators are not “legitimate
    representatives” of minority communities.

    • “But he’s white”—after learning that an Anglo Democrat who represents a majority- Hispanic House District voted for the voter ID law.
    • All legislators who voted for SB 14—including 5 Hispanics and 2 African-Americans were motivated by racially discriminatory purposes.”
    • There could be states that could enact voter ID laws without a discriminatory purpose, but “Texas is not one of those places.”
    • The Texas Attorney General should ignore documented evidence of voter fraud and instead “spend all his time” prosecuting environmental violations.
    • “Even if a majority of Hispanics support voter ID, it has a discriminatory purpose.”
    • To the extent African-Americans and Hispanics support voter ID laws, it is only because they were manipulated and misled by Republicans.
    • “I would generally characterize myself as a liberal.” Shocker!!!
    • Voter fraud is “really quite easy to find and prosecute,” a position that is at odds with experienced state and federal law enforcement officials.

    You never know what a court is going to do (unless of course it is the 9th circuit) so they could strike down the law.  But either way, one side is bound to be unhappy and this will move its way up the chain and eventually land at the Supreme Court.  A place that has upheld the right to prove eligibility to vote is not discrimination.  The truth is it wouldn’t matter what color your skin is.  All must provide an ID.  The burden is the same regardless of sex or race.

     
    • Don 7:40 PM on 07/13/2012 Permalink | Reply

      The idea that a state-issued picture ID is discriminatory against the poor is bunk. Do the poor drink alcohol? If so, when they purchase it they need a state-issued ID to do so. Do the poor purchase Pseudoephedrine? If so, at least in my state, they need a state-issued ID to do that, too.

      I never hear the left rail about requiring state-issued picture IDs for these examples.

    • Ike 1:14 PM on 07/14/2012 Permalink | Reply

      In Texas, you can get photo ID from the Department of Public Safety – aka ‘State Police’ – for less than the cost of a twelve-pack of Budweiser. Where do they hide these offices? All over the place. Anyone who claims that they are unable to get a valid photo ID – as opposed to “too lazy” – is a liar. I hope that DOJ paid those two young witnesses they flew from Texas to testify a lot of money for it. When the Voter ID law in Texas in invalidated, I quit voting, because my one white, straight, middle-aged male vote will be swamped by the vote of the dead, imaginary, non-citizen voters who amazingly enough all vote Democratic. Just like when I lived in the Rio Grande Valley.

  • just a conservative girl 1:26 PM on 07/12/2012 Permalink | Reply
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    Oh Yes He Did – VP Biden at NAACP 

    His speech was a disgrace.  He even went as far as to change up his speaking style and dialect.

    Here are just two of the lowlights:

    Huh?

    Then there is this little tidbit:

    What is that you learned Joe?  That Obama was clean and articulate?

    Sickening.

     

     
    • signpainterguy 1:52 PM on 07/12/2012 Permalink | Reply

      Startling difference between Romney`s speech and Biden`s; Romney spoke to the gathering in terms befitting intelligent adults. Biden pandered to the lowest common denominator.

      I`ve come to understand that those who scream “Uncle Tom” at conservative blacks are in fact the REAL Uncle Toms. They are the ones, without realizing it, who want to stay on the plantation !

      • just a conservative girl 2:26 PM on 07/12/2012 Permalink | Reply

        Uncle Tom didn’t want to stay on the plantation. We need to rid ourselves of the pop culture version of who Uncle Tom was and how he was portrayed. I did post on it. Read it then pass the information on. http://912member.blogspot.com/2010/05/uncle-tom-profile-in-conviction.html

        • signpainterguy 5:39 PM on 07/12/2012 Permalink | Reply

          Is it not so that the Tom in question “chose” to stay with the plantation owner and help him in his time of need, shortage of helpers, when Tom could have chosen to go his own way ?

          • just a conservative girl 6:32 PM on 07/12/2012 Permalink | Reply

            No. Tom was told he would be freed by his second owner St. Clare. He gets killed and his wife reneges on that promise saying she just needs some help for a short time. Which he believed. Then she sells him to the man who eventually kills him. Sadly, that happens right at the time his original owner’s family raised enough to get him back and then free him with his wife and children. But to say that he voluntarily stayed a slave is not accurate. What he did voluntarily do was not runaway when he had the chance.

            • signpainterguy 9:59 AM on 07/13/2012 Permalink | Reply

              “…he did voluntarily …. not run away …. ” THAT is the point that stuck in my mind.

              “NOT running when he had the option” is what today is morphed into “won`t leave the plantation”, which is unconscionable. Today, the left, and blacks, portray / see republicans as the slave owners and the dem party as the emancipators; the opposite of reality.

              It sounds like there was trickery and betrayal “to burn”, but Tom`s actions were honorable.

              • just a conservative girl 12:18 PM on 07/13/2012 Permalink | Reply

                I over simplified it, but it comes down to this Uncle Tom was not a race traitor like he is referred to today. Read the book. I think all conservatives should read it so they can fight the stereotype of it.

                • signpainterguy 4:38 PM on 07/13/2012 Permalink | Reply

                  I have it on my e-Reader; I need to re-read it. It`s been a LOOOOONG time since I read a condensed version !

                  I really think we are making the same point; it is the liberal dems who are keeping blacks and minorities oppressed (enslaved and on the plantation); it is the liberal blacks and minorities who “choose” to remain enslaved and on the plantation while the republicans are falsely accused of being the oppressive slave owners and conservative blacks are falsely accused of being traitors !

  • just a conservative girl 6:17 PM on 07/05/2012 Permalink | Reply
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    An Open Letter to Chris Rock 

    Yesterday Chris Rock tweeted this:

    Happy white peoples independence day the slaves weren’t free but I’m sure they enjoyed fireworks

    Dear Mr. Rock:

    I am not going to call your tweet racist.  Besides the fireworks, your comment was historically accurate.  We did have slaves the day the declaration was signed.  The founders did not put an end to slavery.  The reason that they didn’t was the fact that they knew it would not be ratified if they had.  The decision was made to have an imperfect United States, instead of no country at all.   The hope had been that slavery would die on its own, as it had in many other countries by that time.  Sadly, we did have to fight a civil war to end slavery.

    I am not one to say that this country is perfect.  We have many warts and many things we should be ashamed of.  Even today things happen that are a true shame and black eye on our nation.  One that comes to mind immediately is the fact that we have so many veterans that are homeless.  These are men and woman who were willing to die to protect this nation and the very least we should do is pay them enough that this never happens to them.  We are working on ways to solve these problems.

    I looked up your net worth, it is said to be $70 million.  That is more money than most Americans will make in a lifetime.  You don’t seem to have done all that badly in this country, even though we once had slavery.

    But the thing that I really don’t understand Mr. Rock, is why are not making these same statements about other countries that had slavery?  Virtually every country in the history of the world had slavery in some form or another.  In some instances the practice continues to today, it is just called by another name; indentured servitude.  That is a very common practice in the Middle East, it is even known to happen in America as well when foreign workers are brought here to work for certain visas.  This isn’t all that uncommon in people who work for diplomats that are in our country.

    Why are you not railing about these practices?  This is something that you can actually do something about.  The history of slavery in this country cannot be changed.  Our history is our history.  But, it really isn’t anymore of a black eye on our country than it was on any other country that did the exact same practice?  After all the Egyptians held the Jews slaves for many years.  The Greeks and the Romans had slaves as well.  Do you make the same statements about these countries?  Or is it just the United States that you make these statements about?  If so, I would like to know why.

    Why are these other countries exempt but we are not?  As I said, you have done quite well for yourself in this country.  I wonder if you were a Jew who was living in Egypt you would do as well?  Somehow I don’t think so.  The act of holding Jews as slaves has long since ended there, but the bitterness has not.  They are currently going through a great deal of upheaval there and being a Christian could get you killed.

    You see Mr. Rock, you can do pretty much anything you want in this country.  You can become a stand up comedian, make movies, and be on television.  Attracting white audiences all the while you are making a very good living for yourself.  I don’t think that is possible for the Jews in many other countries in the Arab world let alone Egypt.

    I don’t deny racism exists in this country.  It most certainly does.  But it is time that we admit that racism will never fully be eradicated.  As it is a human condition.  It happens across all political, financial, and racial strata.   Your tweet proves that.  You did this on purpose on a day that we should be celebrating the wonder that is America.  The great experiment that became our country.  As I said, we have problems.  Maybe, just maybe, you should stop trying to stir the pot.  I know that you do a great deal of charity work with your wife.  I applaud you for putting yourself out there to raise awareness to different issues that we face in our nation.  But by bringing up slavery on Independence Day was far from your finest moment and does nothing to help anyone.  Except maybe to revive your stalled career.

     

     
    • namastemea 8:01 AM on 07/06/2012 Permalink | Reply

      jacg, an awesome post! you covered it all with class and directness. i think your last line nails rock’s motives. the tweet seems to be a way for him to fire up a few ignorant followers. no matter how far we advance in this great country, we will always have the inconsolable rabblerousers.

    • Anonna 9:38 AM on 07/06/2012 Permalink | Reply

      I wonder if Chris Rock has the integrity to read this excellent post. Doubt it. Much more fun to get “street cred” crude points with nasty tweets.

    • signpainterguy 5:36 PM on 07/06/2012 Permalink | Reply

      Jerry Seinfeld and Jeff Foxworthy have both made their comedic fortunes without resorting to trashiness and negativity. It must take intelligence and true forethought to accomplish it though …. and integrity !

    • Ramon Butler 11:37 AM on 07/10/2012 Permalink | Reply

      I find this Chris Rock backlash ridiculous. Really? Someone tells the truth and you’re mad? He is American. He never claimed otherwise. He didn’t say America has not provided him with opportunities far beyond what would have been available in other countries. But part of being American, to me, is that I have to acknowledge all the good, bad & bullsh*t that comes with it. How clever to refer to Jerry Seinfeld and Jeff Foxworthy….I am sure they don’t have a problem hailing a cab in NYC…Despite his $70 million Chris Rock does…

  • just a conservative girl 1:41 PM on 06/02/2012 Permalink | Reply
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    Those Democratic Racists in Massachusetts 

    You know it is Jim Crow all over again if you ask someone to show an ID before they place their vote.   That is unless you are a democrat hailing from the great Commonwealth of MA, the home of the Kennedy Clan.

    You see the dems are holding their convention today and not only do you have to show an ID to vote, they won’t even let you onto the floor of the convention unless you have a valid ID.

    Those raaaaacists.

    Paging Jesse and Al.  C’mon get your marching shoes on.  It is time to give hell to those racists who are trying to keep the poor and the under-privileged from voting.

    I am sure we will be hearing from the NAACP in 3…2…1…

    Or maybe not.

    Another display of liberal logic.  I almost feel sorry for these people.  They just can’t see how hypocritical they are.  Or, is that they just don’t care?

     
    • Don 5:35 PM on 06/02/2012 Permalink | Reply

      “Do as I say, not as I do.”

      Oh, uh sorry. I was just trying out the new slogan for the Democratic Party…

  • just a conservative girl 10:47 AM on 05/21/2012 Permalink | Reply
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    Looks Like Telling the Truth is not Welcomed in the Democratic Party – Cory Booker Gets Attacked by the Tolerant Left – Language Warning 

    Cory Booker, Newark Mayor, said yesterday on Meet the Press that he didn’t like the attacks on Bain Capital or on Equity firms in general.  Unlike his counterparts in the party he understands that firms like Bain help virtually every person in this country.  Most 401(k) funds, pension funds, and other retirement funds have money invested in firms just like Bain.  Well run firms give good long term investments and revenues to your retirement plans.

    But that is just too logical for the dems.  They went after Mayor Booker with a vengence:

    @CoryBooker @dawn9476 @Bain Cory, ur political career is DEAD to us Dems unless u get ur ass back on TV ASAP & take back ur words re; Bain

    @CoryBooker @dawn9476 @Bain Only Cory Booker can fix this mess that Cory Booker made! Your name is MUD today among the Dem/Obama twitteratti

    I dont give a fuck who Booker thinks he is, he is NOT bigger than the POTUS. Stand united with Obama or get the fuck outta the way.

    Now so-called PBO supporters are retweeting @goldietaylor A BLACK REPUBLICAN to defend Cory Booker?! AGAIN, WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU PEOPLE?!

    .@CoryBooker You just let David Gregory destroy your career. It’s what happens when you won’t defend the person who would defend you.

    Fucking Judas Iscariot. Fuck @CoryBooker He’s made a deal. Get Romney in the WH and you get the NJ Gov mansion. He’s their Black attack dog.

    And of course the dems just can’t help themselves and bring race into it:

    @PragObots @CoryBooker Booker did this? U mean Booker is just another house nigger? 

    @MWJ1231 @CoryBooker Mr. Booker is nauseating. he is just another hating jealous house nigger begging for table scraps.

    The press is reporting that he has backtracked on his statement.  He has not, but the edited version of his video sure makes it seem that way.  Listen to the entire video and you will see that he has not backtracked.  He is still supporting the president, but he makes it clear that attacks on Bain are counterproductive.  There are people in this country that understand how important these firms are to lifeblood of our economy.

    There is nothing wrong with making money.  After all who is going to pay for all that “free” control if no one is making any money?

     
  • just a conservative girl 10:34 AM on 04/30/2012 Permalink | Reply
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    Rahm Emanuel Now in the Crosshairs – Closing of Under Performing Public Schools Raises the Hackles of Jesse Jackson 

    Rahm Emanuel is about to experience for himself that the racebaiters of the world don’t care about your politics.  He is planning on closing 17 poorly performing public schools.  Not something that is sitting well with the likes of Jesse Jackson.

    “I cannot wait another year and allow a child to be caught in a school system that, for five years running, has been on the watch list or the troubled list with no prospect of getting off of it. … Nothing to me is worse in the sense of discrimination than leaving kids in a system that, year-in-and-year-out, has been scored as failing.”

    Not that you are apt to hear me say this often, but he is right.  These schools need to be closed and these kids have the right to get a better quality education.  Jackson on the other hand is calling it:

    “educational apartheid,”

    No, Mr. Jackson apartheid is keeping these black children in a failing school that gives them little to chance of becoming a productive adult.  It would be apartheid to keep them there.  Jackson is under the impression that just spending more money will solve the problems.  Chicago spends more money per pupil then they do for the students in the public school system where I live.  We have a 90% on time graduation rate and almost 92% rate of students going onto a post-secondary education.  The problems go beyond money.

    Someone actually took the time to write down the costs associated with the low graduation rates for the city of Chicago (which is just above 50%) and the results of what it costs the community are staggering:

    15% of high school dropouts were in the jail system in the year 2010-2011 overall and rise to 25% for blacks.  More than 50% of the prison population in Illinois are high school dropouts.

    Nearly 48% of 18 to 64-year-old high-school dropouts in Chicago did not work even one week last year. The statewide number, 42%, is not much better and is four times higher than the figure of those with bachelor’s or higher degrees.

    If those numbers are not enough:

    The study, based on U.S. Census data, suggests that dropouts nationally will be a net drain on the government, collecting an average of $70,850 more in benefits like food stamps in their lifetimes than they’ll pay in taxes. In comparison, the typical high-school grad will make a net positive contribution of $236,060.

    About 33% of dropouts will collect food stamps, twice the share of graduates, and fewer than half will own a home. And such bleak figures tend to be passed down to their children.

    “Children living in families headed by high-school dropouts face a substantially above average probability of encountering cognitive, health, housing adequacy and nutrition problems that will limit their future, their chances of securing a bachelor’s degree by their mid-20s are close to zero.”

    Now, I don’t believe that every person should go to college.  Some people are not cut out for it and they would prefer to do jobs that don’t require a college degree.  But they will still usually need some sort of training or education in order to find a job that will allow them to live above the poverty line.  While that is not true in all cases, it is true in many.

    So it seems that Jesse Jackson would prefer that these kids just stay in these schools, increase the odds of them dropping out and have a much harder time leading lives that will bring more financially security to them.   He plans on filing a lawsuit to stop the closing of these schools.

    There are no words for the stupidity of what Jesse Jackson is doing.  People need to wake up and realize that the likes of Jesse Jackson has lost all relevance and his ideas of what constitutes fairness not only are outdated but dangerous to the community that he says he is trying to help.

    This report details the costs to society as a whole in just one state.  multiply this by 50% and it is not hard to see why we are broke.  Our broken educational system is not just drain on us financially, it is becoming a national security issue.  It was just 40 years ago that we had the highest rates of high school and college graduates in the world.  We now rank at 21st.  That is how far we have fallen is such a short time.

    Again, you not likely to see this again real soon – Kudos to Mayor Emanuel for having the courage to take on the unions and Jesse Jackson to do what is right for children instead of what is easy.

     
    • SignPainterGuy 12:31 PM on 04/30/2012 Permalink | Reply

      If the shyster JJ is involved, then the schools to be closed must be in black neighborhoods. Is he interested in the kid`s education (cough) ? Or is his interest in the job security of entrenched unionized teachers, administrators and custodians ?

      As for RE doing something right, well, even a broken clock is right twice a day ! You`re #1 Rahm !

      It is NOT a matter of “money spent”; it is a matter of quality of teachers and the curriculum being taught !

    • stlgretchen 1:59 PM on 04/30/2012 Permalink | Reply

      SignPainterGuy writes:

      “It is NOT a matter of “money spent”; it is a matter of quality of teachers and the curriculum being taught !”

      That’s true. But it is also because local school districts and taxpayers have little say so in how their schools (that are paid for by taxpayer money) are run today. Local districts do nothing more than hire teachers and pay for upkeep. The standards, assessments and curriculum (since it will have to be aligned to the assessments) have been handed over to Common Core consortia run by private organizations. Schools have been handed over to private companies which are not accountable to taxpayers.

      Rahm is just putting more control of schools into private organizations since the taxpayers and local districts have been rendered incompetent via DOEd mandates through the years. Charter school operators aren’t really entrepreneurs or free market as they use taxpayer money for the “risk”, not their own.

      Corporations will now make educational decisions for schools and this has been facilitated via government officials. If true local control would return to public schools, maybe there would not be so many failures. When school is seen as an entitlement instead of a responsibility by both parents and students, of course it has a higher rate of failure. DOEd has become the nanny state and the taxpayer/students are the obedient children.

      http://www.missourieducationwatchdog.com/2012/04/americas-global-educational-reform-when.html

      • SignPainterGuy 7:37 PM on 04/30/2012 Permalink | Reply

        I get a little antsy when people throw the “corporation” card; they usually mean it in an “evil” sense. I`m with ya till that part. First, I don`t automatically throw the Good Blanket over all corporations, but if businesses are involved in ed., then you can assume they are approaching the idea from a capitalist perspective, rather than socialist, as gov. schools do now. Capitalism allows and may even depend on religious practice, while socialism seeks to rid society of non-gov. centric faith systems, especially Christianity / Judaism !

        • stlgretchen 8:04 PM on 04/30/2012 Permalink | Reply

          The current educational reforms are the marriage of the capitalists and the progressives. The capitalists (both on the left and the right) are making the money from education…think Gates, Rhee….and in the meantime, the progressive agenda is being pushed through via Common Core standards. And by progressive, it means not only socialistic material, it’s also designed to teach and track children so they can become workers for the global economy. That global push for global workers and tracking has been supported by both Democrats and Republicans. What I’ve been seeing in the educational reform is that there is no Democrat or Republican agenda…it’s the elitists making money off education. All the reforms are being driven by private organizations while funded with taxpayer money with no taxpayer input. That’s not really “public” education. That’s taxpayers funding private companies which make ALL the decisions (curriculum included) and the taxpayers have no voice.
          True capitalism has little governmental mandates. Public education are federal mandates choking any local control. The educational reforms today are not capitalism. Here’s a post explaining the marriage of the left and right:

          http://potterwilliamsreport.com/2012/02/17/are-conservative-education-reformers-being-snookered.aspx

          Question: why are conservative legislators, governors and education reformers following the educational blueprint of the Obama administration? Isn’t that rather odd?

          • SignPainterGuy 8:24 PM on 04/30/2012 Permalink | Reply

            Aah, I see now; it`s “state-capitalism” ! Not true capitalism. Real capitalism made the US rich, free and profitable, while state-capitalism is making China rich without many of the freedoms.

    • Ike 8:03 PM on 04/30/2012 Permalink | Reply

      Cut out the welfare benefits from the government, entirely. Watch the parents getting the schools etc back into shape and graduating kids who can do something besides complain about how victimized they are. Side-effect: lower government budgets, if we can keep the politicos from finding some other group of potential steady voters to buy off. Naw, that won’t happen; but it made you flinch, didn’t it??

      • SignPainterGuy 8:27 PM on 04/30/2012 Permalink | Reply

        Vouchers for every student, even home-schooled !

        • just a conservative girl 9:16 PM on 04/30/2012 Permalink | Reply

          Vouchers won’t work everywhere in the country.

          • SignPainterGuy 9:44 PM on 04/30/2012 Permalink | Reply

            Please explain. Not arguing or challenging you, I`m just curious where a choice of school and the funding following the student would not work.

            I was thinking about it today. In my county, Haywood,NC, there are (I think) 5 elem., 4 middle and 3 high schools plus at least one Christian school, k-12. There are some homeschoolers but no charters that I know of. I will exclude the home for orphans. One of the middle / high school combos is not one many would choose to go to, as it is for “troubled” kids; those with records, on the wrong path, ordered to go there !

            Other than issues of transportation, I can`t see a problem with school choice. I am calling vouchers and school choice, the same thing here.

            • just a conservative girl 9:47 PM on 04/30/2012 Permalink | Reply

              Some places are too rural. How many schools do you think are on the smallest islands of Hawaii? Are they supposed to get on airplane for another? Some places in Alaska would be the same. Not much different than in places in Wyoming, among many others. In some cases fixing the school that is existing is the only answer.

              • SignPainterGuy 10:11 PM on 04/30/2012 Permalink | Reply

                Yep, that`d make changing school a very difficult, impractical thing.

                There`s still the alternative of home schooling for those parents with the ability ! If the student`s funding followed the child to the parents, there`d be real incentive to home school.

                • just a conservative girl 10:26 PM on 04/30/2012 Permalink | Reply

                  I don’t think that is necessarily a good idea. There would be a great deal of fraud, and many kids being homeschooled by incompetent parents strictly for the money.

                  There is no one answer. It is going to be a multi-pronged approached.

                  One of the things that I like that they are doing in Chicago is that they are opening a high school that will have career tracts for kids who are not college bound. They do that at one of my local high schools as well. You can learn to be a hairdresser among other things. That is a good solution for some of the inner cities where going to college isn’t always attainable.

                  • SignPainterGuy 11:18 PM on 04/30/2012 Permalink | Reply

                    I agree, no one pill for all ills.

                    My local hi sch. still has some shop courses, welding, mach. shop, beauty/hair/cosmetics, others that get you started in a career with extended training avail. at local comm. tech. coll. for enough to get you a basic degree and decent pay. I like that approach so you can work in your field, save some cash and go on to a higher degree and better pay n stuff later.

  • just a conservative girl 10:36 AM on 04/06/2012 Permalink | Reply
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    The Politics of the Death of Trayvon Martin 

    The death of Trayvon Martin is still in the headlines and getting a great deal of coverage on the cable news shows.  I personally watch very little television, but when I do turn on CNN or MSNBC this is a major topic.  New polling is out that shows a racial divide on how you look at the case.  Many whites, myself among them, feel that this has been politicized by the likes of Jesse Jackson and Rev. Al Sharpton.  Now, I will admit anytime that Rev. Al gets involved in something I am more than just a tad suspicious.   See, I grew up outside of New York City and I remember the Tawana Brawley Case.  A very sad story of young teenaged girl who made accusations of rape at the hands of white attackers.  The longer it when on the more of the circus it became.  Brawley came from an abused background and had a step-father who was literally a killer and a mother who had abused her in the past for running away.  The racial strife that besieged the city during this incident is well-remembered by the people who had to live with it once this story left the news.  While Sharpton was successfully sued, he didn’t pay the monetary damages, people paid it for him.  We then can move onto the Duke LaCrosse players.  Rev. Al tried to destroy these young men’s lives based on a lie.  When there is a big spotlight that he can climb into, he never misses the opportunity.  He is nothing more than a race hustler and a con man.  How this man continues to have any creditability is beyond my comprehension.  Al Sharpton has blood on his hands.

    I have been on record as being disgusted about how some one the right have decided to put Trayvon on trial.  This doesn’t belong in the court of public opinion.  This case is moving along in the justice system.  More slowly than many people would like, but nonetheless it is moving along.

    There are many things that we don’t know about this case.  What does the coroner’s report say about where the bullet entered Trayvon’s body.  They can tell what angle the gun was held at and how close the gun was to his body when it went off.  Did Trayvon have any defensive wounds, did he have Zimmerman’s DNA under his fingernails, and did he have any other injuries beside the gunshot?   Where was Trayvon’s body in relation to Zimmerman’s car?  Where was Trayvon spotted in comparison to the store and his dad’s home?  All of these things will help bolster or help destroy Zimmerman’s statement of events that led to the shooting.  None of these things have been made public, so we have no way of knowing what evidence the state has and what they don’t.  Zimmerman has said that Trayvon went for his gun.  Is his fingerprints on the gun or the holster?  If so, game over; Zimmerman will be a free man.  Rightfully so, in my opinion.  That will be a clear-cut case of self-defense.

    I have nothing but sympathy for the parents of Trayvon.  They buried their child.  Let me say that again, they buried their child.  That is a pain that no person should have to go through.  No matter the circumstances, it is one of the most painful things that anyone will endure.  They want justice done in the name of their son.  A perfectly understandable thing.  Any parent would want a full accounting of what happened to their child and how they died.  I am even willing to cut the woman some slack about getting the trademarks.  She has a very good attorney who I am sure told her to do this.  Lets be honest here, people would have tried to make money off her son’s death and this prevents people from profiting off her pain and loss.

    What I find so troubling is how this boy’s death is being used and politicized.  The family made an appearance on Capitol Hill in regards to Stand Your Ground laws.  That is a state issue and has nothing to do with the federal government.  But people have decided to use this death to further their anti-gun agenda.  Stand Your Ground Laws isn’t really a gun law.  It says that you can use up to deadly force to protect yourself  even off your own property.  You can do that in any number of ways that don’t include a gun.  Some people are well-trained in martial arts and could end another’s life with their bare hands.  You could use a knife if you happen to have one, a tire iron if you are on the side of the road changing a tire and some one tries to attack you.  The law isn’t designed to be about guns, it is designed to allow people who are being threatened with imminent danger to protect themselves.  But of course the anti-gun lobby will use anything that they can to limit the constitutional rights of gun owners.

    We also see cries of racism.  There is zero proof that Zimmerman is a racist.  Zero.  The people who are perpetuating this should be hanging their heads in shame (Rev. Al).  Racism is a very serious charge and it should not be made lightly.  There is word on the 911 call that you can’t make out.  Somehow this has turned into the word “coon”.  When is the last time you heard a person use that word to describe a black person?  That is not something that is part of the everyday conversation about race in this country.  When you make claims of racism that have little to no basis in fact, you are taking away from the true claims of racism.  I have heard one person go as far as to say that Zimmerman’s tutoring of underprivileged people was actually proof that he is a racist.  He did it to prove his superiority or something like that.

    The Congressional Black Congress is not going to be outdone by Rev. Al, so they have decided to enter a resolution to honor the life of the young slain teen and it also calls for a repeal of the stand your ground laws.  Oddly, one of the people who signed onto the resolution is Congresswoman Frederica Wilson who helped pass the law in the Florida legislator.  Oh, the irony and how it is not being reported that this law passed unopposed.

    The media bias in this case is well documented.  NBC has admitted to “editing” the 911 call.  Apparently that happened in the control room.  Uh, huh.  They purposely reported this case as a white on black hate crime.  They have done everything in their power to convict Zimmerman, to heck with the facts; or more precisely the lack thereof.  They have led to some of this uneven polling that we are seeing.  They have taken an unfortunate set of circumstances that we don’t have all the facts about and turned it into political theater.  A very sad commentary on how the view their jobs as unbiased reporters of facts.   They are losing even the bare threads of journalistic integrity that they had left.  Especially when you consider Al Sharpton is allowed to lead rallies then report on them during his show.  While he is opinion and should be given a little more leeway, he has been allowed to use that platform to push a point a view about a criminal matter.

    Rev. Al says it is people  on the right who have decided that Zimmerman is not guilty.  I don’t believe that to be true.  I think most on the right feel that they don’t have enough facts to say what did or did not happen and we would like to see what the special prosecutor has to say about the available evidence.

    I have heard on interview with Trayvon’s mother.  She won’t accept anything but a conviction.  Of course she is still in mourning and dealing with her grief.  I can’t imagine that Al Sharpton will accept it if the prosecutors come back and say that the evidence shows that Zimmerman acted within the law and no charges will be brought.  I know some who will not accept it either.  At least at this point.  They have made up their minds.  They ignore the fact that there is a witness that backs up Zimmerman’s claims.  Trayvon was on top of him punching him.  There are wounds seen on him in the video that released.  There was tape on his nose showing that their was some sort of injury.  To me the only way that Zimmerman should have felt reasonably in danger was if Trayvon did go for his gun.  If not, he was not justified in shooting him.

    I have come to the conclusion that at the end of the day we will find that both Zimmerman and Trayvon both made some bad choices.  Zimmerman should have stayed in his car and locked the door once he knew the police were coming.  Trayvon should have either ran to his dad’s or called 911 when he was made uncomfortable once he realized that some strange man was following him.  If either of them had done these things, Trayvon would still be alive today.

     
    • Ike 1:31 PM on 04/06/2012 Permalink | Reply

      As to your opinion that “…the only way Zimmerman should have felt reasonably in danger was if Trayvon did go for his gun.”, I disagree. If Martin was on top of Zimmerman, banging his head onto the ground – or a concrete sidewalk – how much of that physical punishment does a person have to take before being reasonably in fear of death or serious bodily injury? How much pain? How much potential serious bodily injury is required? Must a person in that situation wait until they feel their skull fracture before they’re entitled to kill in their own defense? Why do you suppose that one of the life lessons which used to be imparted to kids – at least in the working-class white world I lived in – was “Don’t start a fist fight with a man who has a gun.”? Take a guess. Because precisely this will happen to you, regardless of race, regardless of time of day or night, regardless of anything other than if you are beating up a man (or woman) who has a gun, they will shoot and kill you. Bad choices? Yes, I agree with that part, however, the producing cause of Martin being shot was his physical attack on Zimmerman. Not conservative racism; there is a live witness to has told the police that he saw Martin on top of Zimmerman beating his head into the sidewalk. How many times does a person have to be hit before you belive they’re entitled to kill in self-defense?

      • SignPainterGuy 7:21 PM on 04/06/2012 Permalink | Reply

        Dittos Ike ! “Must a person ……. feel their skull fracture before they`re entitled to kill in their own defense ?” This seems to be much the same rationale behind the protection of and the laws against harming grizzly bears. Apparently, the bear`s defenders believe you must have your head in the bear`s mouth and feel the pressure of the bite into you skull, or have already lost an arm or other appendage before you can shoot to defend yourself !

        I say, HORSE MANURE !! No animal is worth a hair or fingernail of a human ! No criminal or attacker is worth dying for. The attacker certainly doesn`t care for your rights; a home invader gave up his rights as soon as he crossed the curb ! Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6 !

        If criminals could come to reasonably expect a person to defend himself, likely with deadly force, much violent crime would be prevented by the fear of dying themselves in the process of committing a crime. A whole lot of second thoughts !

        • just a conservative girl 7:49 PM on 04/06/2012 Permalink | Reply

          he knew that the police were coming. On top of that his injuries were not severe enough that they required him to seek medical attention outside of what was being done at the scene. It is well known that this man had anger management issues. It could very well be that he reacted in anger more than fear of his life. Again, we have to wait and see what the medical reports have to say about his injuries. From what little we can glean from the video (which is not much) his injuries looked relatively superficial.

    • Ike 9:04 PM on 04/06/2012 Permalink | Reply

      He was a part of the neighborhood watch and was protecting his neighbors and their homes. He knew the police were coming; yes and do you suppose that was anything he considered, while his head was being pounded into the ground – or concrete? Would you have thought, “Oh, the cops are coming, so I won’t do anything”? You are ignoring the question. The question is: how much physical injury must a person suffer before being legally – or morally, if you prefer – justified in killing their assailant? His injuries are ‘relatively’ superficial because he shot and killed his attacker. From what legal source comes your implicit idea that there is some threshold of inflicted injury required before the use of deadly force is legally permitted?? Put yourself in Zimmerman’s position: you’ve been punched in the face and knocked down by someone who you strongly suspect of being a burglar who is looking for somewhere to burgle; he is – right now – pounding the concrete sidewalk with your head; you scream and yell for help, but no one answers or comes to help. Are you going to tell me that you would simply lay there and be beaten to death – or to whatever degree would satisfy Martin – without raising a hand to defend yourself? Suppose that one of the hypothesized events was occurring: that Martin was attempting to take your gun out. Does that change your opinion? And even if true, does it matter that he had anger management issues? Of what significance is that? Having served in the Vietnam War for three years, I can tell you that in life-and-death situations, anger is a virtue, not a disease – as it appears to have become here in these ‘modern’ times. No, it seems plain, based on the publicly-released information from law enforcement that Martin attacked Zimmerman, was beating his head against a sidewalk – perhaps was trying to take his gun, maybe not – Zimmerman was yelling for help and got none. So, he took out his gun and shot the man who was attacking him. Good outcome? Of course not, but the fault is Martin’s, not Zimmerman’s, based on the available evidence that has been publicly released. There is no requirement in the law that a person being beaten wait until some certain amount of damage is done; the requirement is that that person be reasonably in fear of serious bodily injury or death. Having one’s head bashed into the sidewalk repeatedly, after having been punched in the face and knocked down would seem to create that fear in any reasonable person.

      • just a conservative girl 9:37 PM on 04/06/2012 Permalink | Reply

        You are assuming that Zimmerman is telling the whole truth about what happened. Yes Trayvon at some point was on top of him – According to one witness. According to another that was not the case. Do you think that if you start a fight with someone and they end up getting the better of you during that fight that you get to kill them? For all you know that is what happened. You can’t say who threw the first punch. No one saw it.

        There is a woman being interviewed right now as I am writing this saying that she believes the cries she heard came from Trayvon. She also believes that they were on the grass the entire time of the fight. She was on the phone with 911 when she heard the shot.

        You have chosen to believe Zimmerman’s story in total, without the police reports of the physical evidence you are making assumptions of facts that may or may not exist. You don’t know where the body was found in relation to the car, in relation to the sidewalk, and many other things.

        To say that Zimmerman acted within the law with the scant evidence that is available is irresponsible. Just as irresponsible as Rev. Al saying that he was shot in cold blood because he was black.

        • fuzislippers 12:27 PM on 04/12/2012 Permalink | Reply

          [quote]You are assuming that Zimmerman is telling the whole truth about what happened. [/quote]

          And you are assuming he’s not. Why not let the courts decide?

          • just a conservative girl 1:13 PM on 04/12/2012 Permalink | Reply

            I know that death was avoidable. Both of them could have made different choices that night. Whether it is criminal or not, no one can reasonably say with the evidence that has been released thus far. Only two people know what really happened and one is dead.

    • Ike 9:03 AM on 04/07/2012 Permalink | Reply

      I have not reached any final conclusion in this case, for precisely the reasons you list, summarized as ‘we haven’t heard the evidence yet’. I am arguing with your statement that Martin had to be reaching for Zimmerman’s gun before Zimmerman would have been justified in shooting him. (That is, by the way, clearly not the law in any jurisdiction that I’m familiar with.) I would point out that you also appear to believe any claim contrary to Zimmerman’s claim of self-defense. You assume, without any evidence at all, that Zimmerman started a fight with Martin. On the question of who threw the first punch, since the police report that Zimmerman had a broken nose, blood on his face and some minor injury to the back of his head, it seems more likely than not that Martin caught him by surprise with a fist to his face and followed up as that one witness described. But you’re correct that a final decision must wait on hearing the evidence, in court. I am handicapped in these cases by my education, training and experience: in addition to combat duty in Vietnam, I am a retired court reporter and attorney who defended criminal defendants, so I have notion of what the law is in such cases as well as first-hand knowledge of what fighting for my life is like. I say again that my argument is against your notion that Zimmerman needed more justification to shoot Martin than what some of the witnesses are saying and what some of the physical evidence supports. There is no legal requirement to have some specific degree of injury, only that the person shooting has a reasonable fear of the imminent infliction of death or serious bodily injury. You have written that more is needed and it is with that assertion that I argue. Not with “who did what to who” or “who’s guilty and who’s innocent”.

      • just a conservative girl 9:20 AM on 04/07/2012 Permalink | Reply

        There are things about Zimmerman’s story that make no sense. The body was found face down. Which means he had to have fallen forward after being shot. Which would lead one to believe that he fell on top of Zimmerman. That gives me pause about his story. Another thing that gives me pause about his story is that he said he was attacked from behind. The police said he had grass stains on his clothing on his back. If he was in the street walking back to his car, attacked from behind wouldn’t he have fallen to the point where his head was in the grass and his back on the concrete? Again, we don’t know if there is blood on the concrete or not. What I am saying is that his story doesn’t add up that it is the complete truth. I also don’t think if he started the altercation, which is possible. There are now two or three witnesses that say that is true. If true, I don’t see how self defense becomes an issue. If I were on a jury and someone started a fight then killed the person and claimed self defense, I would have to convict.

        I also do take issue with imminent threat when you know the police are coming. Head wounds tend to be very bloody, for whatever reason the scalp bleeds a great deal. His clothes don’t appear to be that bloody. The little evidence we have doesn’t back up his story of self defense to me. I would need to know more.

        • cindy 11:40 AM on 04/07/2012 Permalink | Reply

          I beleive that some of the most damning evidence against Zimmerman may be where the bullet entered Trayvon and the trajectory of the bullet. If the bullet entered Trayvon’s back, then Zimmerman is lying about being on the bottom as they struggled. It also means he could have avoided deadly force by continuing astride Trayvon’s body until tthe police arrived. I think Zmmerman, having successfully interrupted a burglary in process in the neighborhood already, wanted to play “hero-cop” for which he is not qualified. He could not have made a citizen’s arrest under the facts with no evidence to support him except a vague suspicion. I dislike both Rev. Sharpton and Jessie Jackson for their sensationalism and divisive tactics, but I do believe there was racial profiling in this case: Young black men were perpetrators in four of the last eight burglaries in the neighborhood; Zimmerman targeted Trayvon because of this (Would he have targeted young white men? – I doubt it); therefore, he did not see Trayvon as an individual because of his race, despite his altruism toward black children in given situations. Finally, this case would not have gotten as far as it has in the court system, were it not for the court of public opinion. I wonder if Zimmerman will invoke the 5th Amendment?

          • just a conservative girl 4:19 PM on 04/07/2012 Permalink | Reply

            Cindy, Zimmerman won’t have to plead the 5th if criminal charges are brought, he is under no obligation to testify. Although one would think in a case where you are using self defense it would be better that you do.
            I am not sure I will go as far as to say racial profiling. I grew up in an all white town. We had a very small police force and truth be told they didn’t do much as it really is a sleepy little town where little happens. But if you were a person of color driving through there late at night they would follow you. I asked one of the cops one day (they used to come to the Friendly’s we hung out at). He told me that it wasn’t racist, it was risk assessment. I didn’t really buy it at the time, but as I have gotten older I see what they were saying. They knew they didn’t live there, so what are they doing driving around late at night? They also followed people in old beat up cars because this is an affluent town and most people didn’t have older cars. I am sure in most cases it was totally innocent, but I would be willing to be dollars to doughnuts that by doing that they saved my home or one of my neighbors from being robbed at least some of the time. (And I am not saying because they are people of color, just that they were people who had no business being there late at night.) They didn’t pull people over and give tickets for no reason, just would follow them until they crossed over into the next town. If the break-ins were being committed by young black males (I am not saying this was the case, I don’t know) and you see a young black male that you have not seen before then yes you would look at that person with doubt if you are trying to play super cop. Color is also a descriptor. It doesn’t always involve racial profiling. But you and I agree on the hero cop thing. Something he was obviously woefully unprepared for. I think an experienced, well trained cop would have had a different outcome even if Zimmerman is telling the truth. Most cops carry taser’s which are not usually deadly.

            Maybe you are correct about getting the special prosecutor assigned. I would like to think that a plea to the governor and AG Bondi would have yielded the same result without all this hoopla. But I may be being naive on that count. We will never know now.

  • just a conservative girl 11:56 AM on 03/29/2012 Permalink | Reply
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    Quote of the Day – Sheila Jackson Lee Edition 

    “You can break your nose on a door.”

    Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee on George Zimmerman’s assertion that Trayvon Martin broke his nose.

    I don’t know if there has been medical evidence that confirms that his nose was broken or not.  But what I do know is that this happened in a grassy area near some homes.  The police arrived very shortly after the shooting, within minutes.  How exactly would he have found time to get to a door and break his own nose?

    What an embarrassment to the House of Representatives.

     
  • just a conservative girl 8:38 AM on 03/29/2012 Permalink | Reply
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    Spike Lee – Doing the Right Thing; Sort Of 

    “I Deeply Apologize To The McClain Family For Retweeting Their Address, it Was A Mistake.Please Leave The McClain’s In Peace.Justice In Court.”

    Luckily, these people have not been hurt.  If you really wanted to do the “right thing” Spike you would not only pay for the hotel bills they have incurred, you also would buy them a new home to live in until this entire thing cools down and they are no longer in danger.  Sadly, I still don’t think that he still even sees how dangerous his actions were.  He is only apologizing because the address is wrong.  Had it been the shooters address, he would be fine with what he had done.

    A very sick and twisted individual.  What more is going to take for the moderate people in our society to admit what the far left has become?

     

     
    • Chris Wysocki (@WyBlog) 9:19 AM on 03/29/2012 Permalink | Reply

      You got it. If he’d tweeted the *correct* address he’d be a hip hop hero. Or something.

    • namaste 9:24 AM on 03/29/2012 Permalink | Reply

      yes, thank goodness, these people weren’t hurt. spike lee is just another opportunist who found a new way to keep his name in the media. he sucks. i couldn’t agree with you more, if he were serious about his apology, he would pay for the couple’s incovenience.

    • fuzislippers 2:34 PM on 03/29/2012 Permalink | Reply

      [quote]What more is going to take for the moderate people in our society to admit what the far left has become?[/quote]

      One thing’s for sure, we cannot become violent in response to anything they do. We do, and it’s all over. That’s why they push so hard, they want–no, they NEED us to react violently. That would not only validate their narrative about how violent we are but would bury everything they’ve done. On top of that, the government is ready to “respond” and have been getting ready since January 2009. I wonder why that is?

      • signpainterguy 5:07 PM on 03/29/2012 Permalink | Reply

        Correct, we must resist all urges to fight back violently because then, after Obama`s recent “Martial Law” EO, he could, among other things, suspend elections and remain in power.

    • Don 2:13 AM on 03/30/2012 Permalink | Reply

      Yet another name on my list of liberal idiots who will never get my money.

      • just a conservative girl 6:39 AM on 03/30/2012 Permalink | Reply

        Don:
        Doesn’t it seem that list gets longer and longer? It certainly has for me. Do they think that conservatives don’t spend money on entertainment?

        • signpainterguy 4:17 PM on 03/30/2012 Permalink | Reply

          It seems to me that the lib. ideology is so overwhelming in people in high places that what they think and say is so much more important than any potential ramifications as a result of their spouting off at the mouth. IOW, they just can`t help themselves !

  • just a conservative girl 2:18 PM on 03/25/2012 Permalink | Reply
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    The Additional Tragedy of the Tayvon Martin Death 

    First, I want to make it perfectly clear that I feel that this case should go in front of a grand jury and let them decide what, if any, charges are brought against Zimmerman.  It should not be tried in the court of public opinion. 

    The problem is that this case is being tried by the media, the pundits, the race baiters of our country, social media, and around kitchen tables all over America.  It is really criminal that this boy’s death is being used in this way.  There are people with an agenda that are making statements that may very well have no basis in fact.  

    The police have released very little information on the evidence that they have on the case.  Maybe because they did a awful job investigating it or just maybe because they are doing a better job than people are willing to admit and are making sure that they are covering every base.  It isn’t all that unusual for it to take time for charges to brought against someone.  Police have to build a case that they believe will hold up in court.  

    We also can look at the photos that are being used.  Below is the photos that media are using.  Photos that are old and paint a picture that they want to paint.  


    They are using pictures of Tayvon that are old and make him appear much younger than his 17 years.  They are using an old mug shot of Zimmerman that is a close up picture of his face that makes him look much bigger than the picture to the right of it.  Media narrative.  The facebook picture of Trayvon clearly shows that he was much bigger than what the media would like you to believe and that Zimmerman isn’t as big as they want you to believe.  

    In Chicago there was a march to honor the life of Trayvon.  But there was barely a mention of the people who were killed by gang violence in a city that has been overrun by gang related crime and deaths this year.  57 children have lost their lives since the beginning of the school year.  The majority of them were gang related.  Are those children’s lives less valuable?  Don’t their parents want justice too?  

    We have movie director and producer Spike Lee tweeting out Zimmerman’s home address, not just once, but twice.  He have Al Sharpton involving himself in this crime.  We have Jesse Jackson saying that black men are under attack.  On this point we sort of agree:

    While African Americans comprise 13.5% of the U.S. Population, 43% of all murder victims in 2007 were African American, 93.1% of whom were killed were African Americans. 

    Shouldn’t we be just at outraged about these murder victims as well?  

    It isn’t that anyone is saying that Jayvon’s death isn’t a tragedy.  It is.  No parent should bury a child, ever, under any circumstances.  It goes against the nature of things.  My only point being we need to examine why this particular crime is getting so much attention and how the media is creating a narrative that may or may not be based on facts.   George Zimmerman has been tried and convicted in the court of public opinion. Not only as a murderer, but a racist as well.  The evidence of that is quite lacking.  

    Black parents have some worries that others do not.  They have to talk to their sons in a way that their white counterparts do not.  Racism exists in this country.  That cannot be denied.  But not every crime  that have people of different colors involved is about racism.  It just isn’t.  The above stat proves that.  Only 7.9% of black murders are even committed by someone of another race. These numbers may not be comfortable for people like Jackson, Sharpton, and Lee to look at, but it doesn’t make them less true.  

    We have to decide as a society if black murder victims are only cared about when they are killed by someone who is not black.  It is about time we have the difficult discussions and broach the topics of why the numbers are so skewed.  Until we talk about the real issues, the problems will never be solved.

    I know that I view the police differently than many in the black community do.  I trust the police for the most part.  There are bad apples of course, but by and large they do their dangerous jobs well.  Many in black communities have a very different view of the police.  But I do feel that is more socio-economic related than race related.  I think that distrust of the police is just more prevalent in poorer communities were crime rates are higher than they are in lower crime rate areas. I have had very few run-ins with the police in my life.  So from my vantage point they are doing their job keeping criminals away from my property.  When you live in a high crime area you are going to see police more often.  You will see people getting arrested more.  You may even feel hassled if they question you because their was a crime in your neighborhood, you will also know more victims of violent crimes and you will know more people who have spent time in jail.  You wonder why they are not doing more about the gangs, the drugs, and whatever else is more of a daily occurrence in your neighborhood than what happens in mine.  Those are the biases that people from my vantage point and  people from other vantage points bring with them when they look at this case.  It isn’t about racism, it is about human nature.  We look at the world from what we have experienced and seen for ourselves.  


    Read here What if Trayvon Martin were white.  A true story of white teen killed by a black shooter.  A different state with different gun laws.  There is an agenda to why this story is getting the attention that it is.  

     
    • fuzislippers 3:24 PM on 03/25/2012 Permalink | Reply

      We’re allowed to talk about cases that make the front pages around our kitchen tables (and in social media) and have been doing so since . . . what? Billy the Kid? and right up to Casey Anthony. The reason most of us are mentioning it is to defuse the race baiters who are trying to use this to spark some kind of all-out race war (it’s not an accident that the far left is on the same page and that bounties are being offered for Zimmerman; it’s all be orchestrated). The problem, for them, is that he’s not white. If he were, we’d probably be having Rodney King-style riots right now, and not localized, either (what do you think ows is for? they’re just sitting around waiting for a reason to explode into violence). And with the WH’s and DOJ’s blessing. In short, we not only have the right but a duty to try to put a stop to the lies and potential violence.

      Until we all stop buying into the leftists’ antiAmerican and unAmerican propensity for putting us in boxes and then trying to pit us against each other, we’re not going to see anything but highly-charged race, gender, sexual orientation, etc. accusations. We are Americans first. That has to be the first step to eliminating the actual racism that you discuss (only caring about black victims when the perpetrator is white). That’s called “equal justice,” and is miles away from “social justice” in every conceivable way.

    • Quite Rightly 6:44 PM on 03/25/2012 Permalink | Reply

      Interestingly, I hear not one word of criticism for the criminals whose activities escalated the anxiety in Zimmerman’s neighborhood to the point that the people who live there concluded that they needed to band together for self-protection because, let’s face it, the available police protection wasn’t sufficient. Those criminals, it seems, are exempt from any exhortation to search one’s soul for possible contributions to a climate in which young Martin was killed.

      • fuzislippers 6:48 PM on 03/25/2012 Permalink | Reply

        Good point, QR (as always). The DOJ is already operating, allegedly (hmph), under orders to never prosecute crimes by blacks against whites, and with that kind of racist (truly racist, not RAAAACIST) policy in place, it’s little wonder that communities feel they have to police themselves.

    • signpainterguy 8:07 PM on 03/25/2012 Permalink | Reply

      Well there you have it; sliced n diced like a Ginsu knife ! The only thing I can add is Spike Lee should be arrested and prosecuted for inciting the possible murder of Zimmerman !

      Ok, Holder should also be arrested and prosecuted for dereliction of duty and malfeasance, to start, for F&F and declaring he would not do his job when it comes to prosecuting black on white violence !

    • leneice 1:49 PM on 03/28/2012 Permalink | Reply

      so what they showin old pictures its about what he did why he did it and what made him do it zimmerman killed tayvon becuse he was black because he LOOKED suspicious no6 because he was doing something like this dont make no sense so yeah so what if he was suspended for 10 days he was a trouble maker he was making no trouble then not smoking nothing he was walkin in the rain wit SKITTLES and ICE TEA not with weed and a gun simple as that zimmer man is a wrong unstable man just stop

      • just a conservative girl 2:39 PM on 03/28/2012 Permalink | Reply

        You have no idea what is going on his head any more than I do. My only point in this post is talk about how the media is handling this case. Not about the facts of the case itself. If Zimmerman were black or if Tayvon were white we would never know Tayvon’s name. That is a tragedy and it needs to be addressed.

        • fuzislippers 3:11 PM on 03/28/2012 Permalink | Reply

          And still more sadly if Zimmerman were black and Trayvon black, we’d never hear about it. Black on black crime is purposely (and purposefully) ignored.

    • Keasha 12:02 PM on 03/30/2012 Permalink | Reply

      Although the media is all we are hearing about the case, Ask yourself was it necessary for someone to die who had no weapon. Sound like to me you have your opinion as well another black male being a ganster and the white man being innocent. Only one person had a gun and only one person ended up dead!

      • just a conservative girl 1:48 PM on 03/30/2012 Permalink | Reply

        Keasha,
        It is a real shame that you have not bothered to read everything I wrote about this. That isn’t at all what I think. That kid shouldn’t be dead.

    • JaqyO85 11:24 PM on 04/07/2012 Permalink | Reply

      I feel that the only reason that race was bought into question is because of a statement made by Zimmerman to the 911 operator..“This guy looks like he’s up to no good, or he’s on drugs or something. It’s raining and he’s just walking around, looking about,” Zimmerman told dispatchers. “These @!$%#s. They always get away.”(http://ibytes.net/florida-justice-department-and-fbi-will-review-death-of-tayvon-martin-washington-times/) Other than that race SHOULD NOT be the issue, the issue is whether or not Zimmerman can clearly justify his actions of killing this young man whether Treyvon was white, black, yellow, orange, green, blue, polka dotted, stripped or a combination of all the above. The law that Zimmerman is trying to hide behind does not apply to his action point blank period!! It was not Treyvons fault that other people do not know how to act and that they made that neighborhood be on such high alerts. My neighborhood is not a bad neighborhood by any means yet I still have a neighborhood watch. If Zimmerman did receive any injuries to his person than that should be expected. Doesn’t Treyvon have a right to fight for his life especially when a strange man comes up to him with a gun?!? Whether Zimmerman is racist or not the fact is that he killed a young man for no reason other than trying to play cop and for that he needs to be punished.
      And just to share something else..check out http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/03/31/2725389/myth-and-reality-of-stand-your.html where it states that:
      The “stand your ground” statute states that “a person who is not engaged in an unlawful activity and who is attacked in any other place where he or she has a right to be has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony.”
      And then let me know if this case should REALLY be about racism or not.

    • Beyonca 12:04 AM on 04/15/2012 Permalink | Reply

      This is how I see it. A 17 year old youngman who just went to the store and was on his way homelost his life because a man asumed he was up to something. Police dispatch told him not to follow him. But he disobeyed and followed him anyway. If he would have obeyedthe dispatch Trayvonwould be alive today. being he persued Trayvon, I dontsee how it could be selfdefence, Trayvon didnt follow Zimmerman. Trayvon is the victom here. what would you do if someones following you? Being a Neighborhood watch doesnt give you authority to do a police officers job. A 17 youngman is gone all because of one mans thought

  • just a conservative girl 12:54 PM on 03/22/2012 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , gun laws, race baiting, , , , ,   

    The Tragedy of Trayvon Martin 

    I was just about to do a post on that poor young man that was shot murdered in Florida.  I happened to read SilverFiddle’s take on the incident and there is no way that I could say it any better:

    A Stupid Gun Owner is a Dangerous Gun Owner


    Responsible gun owners and defenders of the right to self-defense must demand the prosecution of George Zimmerman

    Police in the central Florida town of Sanford have said that 28-year-old George Zimmerman says he shot 17-year-old Trayvon Martin in self-defense during a confrontation in a gated community. Police have described Zimmerman as white; his family says he is Hispanic and not racist. (US News)

    Neighborhood vigilante George Zimmerman murdered young Trayvon Martin.  I don’t see how a reasonable person could reach any other conclusion. News outlets are blaming Florida’s Stand Your Ground Law, but that’s just agenda reporting.

    Nothing in that law green-lights what Zimmerman did. He was flat-out wrong. Criminally wrong. You can’t just go chasing law-abiding citizens down the street at the point of a gun.

    Zimmerman told a police dispatcher that the teen was “up to no good” because he was walking through his neighborhood “just walking around, looking about” with his “hands on his waistband.”  Does the idiot have kids? That’s what teens do!

    Zimmerman chased after Martin, complaining to the dispatcher, “These a******s always get away.”


    Hell yeah!  When a gun-toting man is chasing you, you’re going to try to get away. Of course Martin’s going to run. He probably thought Zimmerman was a pedophile or some kind of crazy person. He had every right to run. He also had a right to turn around and “jump” Zimmerman “from behind” (how do you get jumped from behind by someone you’re chasing? Zimmerman is lying.)

    When someone chases you down and assaults you, you have a right to fight back. Too bad the kid didn’t end up kicking the dumb bastard’s head in.

    Critics are calling for a repeal of Florida’s Stand Your Ground law in the wake of the killing, but that is like calling for the repeal of driving automobiles every time a pedestrian gets run down.

    The perpetrator was not “standing his ground,” he was chasing down an innocent young man who was just trying to get back to his house before the second half started. If anything, had the kid killed Zimmerman, that same law would have protected him.

    This is a tragedy. It is assault with a deadly weapon and murder. And Florida’s Stand Your Ground law needs to stand.  It will protect potential victims from assaults by people like George Zimmerman. 

    The Martin family deserves justice for their son.  Mr. Zimmerman needs to be charged and tried.  Let a jury of his peers decide what his punishment will be.  The city/town of Sanford also deserve a new police chief, one that will follow the letter of the law.  This case is screaming for an arrest and he should be doing just that.

    Although, I do want make another point that Silverfiddle didn’t cover in this, the fact that media is purposely fanning the flames of racism by reporting incorrectly that Mr. Zimmerman is white.  That is not a small point when charges of racism are flying around so freely.    Mr. Zimmerman is Hispanic.  

    You should also go and read DaTech Guy’s take on this as well.  He makes some very good points too.  The numbers of black on black crime that don’t seem to generate all the outrage that this case is generating.  It is very possible that Mr. Zimmerman had some issues with race.  It is also very possible that he has some issues with aggression and anger management that had nothing at all to do with race.  I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on that until more evidence is presented.  But he needs to be arrested and charged.  Let a jury decide his fate.  


    Rest in Peace Trayvon.  

     
    • signpainterguy 6:30 PM on 03/22/2012 Permalink | Reply

      No surprise the media is pushing their anti-gun agenda. Nor is it surprising the racial aspect is given prominence ! At this point, Most all I`ve read and heard has been second and third hand, well into the realm of opinion with more than a dash of bias involved, so I can`t form an honest opinion on Zimmerman`s actions.

      One thing I`m finding a little odd in this; calling a Hispanic person “white”. My local newspaper`s w/s runs a police blotter photo gallery which labels everyone`s race. They call Hispanics “white”. I always thought of Hispanics as, well, Hispanic !

      • just a conservative girl 7:10 PM on 03/22/2012 Permalink | Reply

        There are multiple classifications of Hispanic. Hispanic isn’t a race, so they broke it out. Next time you fill out some form where you asked those kind of questions look at it. I can’t remember how exactly they break it out but they do.

        • signpainterguy 11:30 PM on 03/22/2012 Permalink | Reply

          I have seen that breakout, in fact, but the police blotter makes no distinction. Without regard for extra distinguishing features such as skin color, Indian or Encan ancestery or more European – Spanish features, they are all referred to as “white”. I am just making a point, not trying to change the story`s validity. It just seems odd to me.

    • Dave Knittel 11:02 PM on 03/26/2012 Permalink | Reply

      Was Zimmerman driving a well marked security vehicle or his personal vehicle?

      • just a conservative girl 6:41 AM on 03/27/2012 Permalink | Reply

        I don’t think that has been made clear. But since this was a volunteer neighborhood thing, more than likely his own car. I doubt the kid new he was part of a neighborhood watch. Which would explain why he would be scared. If someone in a car was following me as I walking in a neighborhood I wasn’t overly familiar with I would feel threatened too.

  • just a conservative girl 8:19 AM on 03/20/2012 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: deniro, , race baiting   

    Quote of the Day – Robert DeNiro Edition 

    “Callista Gingrich. Karen Santorum. Ann Romney. Now do you really think our country is ready for a white first lady?

    Robert DeNiro

    Expose the lefts hypocrisy and their obsession with race.

     

    I am Breitbart

     
  • just a conservative girl 4:42 PM on 02/27/2012 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , race baiting   

    Seriously, Mr. President? 

    Would it be ok to have White People for Newt/Mitt/Ron/Rick?  Somehow I don’t think so.

    The hypocrisy is stunning.

    I did recently read somewhere (can’t find the article) that he has lost black support.  I didn’t believe it, but maybe it is true.

     

     
    • SignPainterGuy 8:41 PM on 02/27/2012 Permalink | Reply

      Bad news for Oblamer; his most dependable voting bloc is shrinking ! Relatively small numbers considering what a disaster BO`s been for everyone, but especially blacks ! You`d think blacks would abandon the dem party in droves !

      • just a conservative girl 11:04 PM on 02/27/2012 Permalink | Reply

        I went to see the new documentary Runaway Slave. I didn’t post about it here, but put it on my blog. You should see it if you have the chance. But since Hollywood hasn’t exactly embraced the movie, the distribution has been limited. It doesn’t exactly answer the questions, but it does give insight to how the community thinks and how the history has been rewritten. Many blacks don’t understand the history of civil rights legislation and how the KKK was formed. Conservatives have done a horrible job getting this info out and that must change.

        • SignPainterGuy 11:38 PM on 02/27/2012 Permalink | Reply

          Sounds interesting, Thanks, I`ll look for it on dvd. I don`t go to theaters anymore, just buy `em.

          I bought “The Help”; GREAT movie. Watched 3 times and gave it away, then missed it and re-bought. I highly recommend it. Also set in the civil rights era of the early `60s in Jackson.MS.

          My Dad was raised by a black Nanny; his Mom employed several black maids in her boarding house in central KY. I only remember one, but she and I got along well, considering I was young and always playing. I miss her cooking to this day !

          • just a conservative girl 12:01 AM on 02/28/2012 Permalink | Reply

            I do go to theaters, that is where I saw it. I enjoyed it as well.

            • SignPainterGuy 12:09 AM on 02/28/2012 Permalink | Reply

              Have you seen “The Help” ?

              • just a conservative girl 7:18 AM on 02/28/2012 Permalink | Reply

                Yes, that is what I was referring to. I also read the book.

                • SignPainterGuy 11:13 AM on 02/28/2012 Permalink | Reply

                  Ha ha, I`m sorry. I realized what you meant by “it as well” just after my last reply … too late !

                  My Sis lives in Jackson, saw the pre-release teasers and a doc. about it and the actresses and cat fighting. I told her, “Here, watch it anyway; it`s a great movie !” ;-)

  • just a conservative girl 9:59 PM on 01/16/2012 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , hypocrites, , , race baiting   

    Quote(s) of the Day – Debating on MLK Day Edition 

    On the 2008 democrat presidential debate held on MLK day:

    “It is fitting this final South Carolina Democratic Presidential debate will take place on the day South Carolina and the nation honor Martin Luther King, Jr.,

    Former House Majority Whip Jim Clyburn


    “What better tribute to the memory of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. than to host such an important educational event on the day we celebrate his birthday,” 

     Rep. Bennie Thompson, D-Mississippi


    Fast forward to 2012 to the republican debate being held on MLK  Day.  



    “The Republicans are scheduling their debate [for] Monday, Martin Luther King Day, without any regard, whatsoever, [for] the civil rights issues that this state has faced,


    South Carolina Democratic Party Chair Dick Harpootlian 


    “It is an irony that they are having a debate on Martin Luther King Day, when all of them are running on state’s rights.”


    Jesse Jackson


    Apparently memories are short.  Hypocrites.  

     
  • just a conservative girl 10:03 PM on 12/21/2011 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , , , race baiting   

    Quote of the Day – Department of Justice Spokesperson Edition 

    ”That is a complete distortion of the attorney general’s comment. His comments both in the article and elsewhere made clear that he believes much of the criticism is launched against him are unfortunately the typical Washington gotcha game. A simple reading of those comments show he was referring to how he is identified with the president given their close relationship and all they share in common including their ideology. The position of the attorney general has been a target for partisan attacks, and given the critical work that this attorney general he is doing at the Department of Justice, it’s no surprise that some are engaging in such tactics. His critics rightly view the attorney general is a progressive force, and given our current political environment, there will those who use any opportunity to score political points.”

    A spokesperson from the defense department regarding charges of AG Holder using the race card during an interview with The New York Times.  

    In case you need a reminder, here is his quote:

    “This is a way to get at the president because of the way I can be identified with him, both due to the nature of our relationship and, you know, the fact that we’re both African-American.”

    Hmm, his quote sure sounded about race to me.  But, at least they admitted he was a “progressive”.  I guess that is progress.

     

     
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