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  • Jill 8:00 AM on 05/22/2010 Permalink | Reply
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    Steyn on Obama on Daniel Pearl 

    Thanks to Mark Steyn for doing justice to Obama’s weak, misleading remarks of last week, in which he glossed over the butchering of Daniel Pearl:

    Pearl was decapitated on video by jihadist Muslims in Karachi on Feb. 1, 2002. That’s how I’d put it.

    This is what the president of the United States said: “Obviously, the loss of Daniel Pearl was one of those moments that captured the world’s imagination because it reminded us of how valuable a free press is.”

    Now Obama’s off the prompter, when his silver-tongued rhetoric invariably turns to sludge. But he’s talking about a dead man here, a guy murdered in public for all the world to see. Furthermore, the deceased’s family is standing all around him. And, even for a busy president, it’s the work of moments to come up with a sentence that would be respectful, moving, and true. Indeed, for Obama, it’s the work of seconds, because he has a taxpayer-funded staff sitting around all day with nothing to do but provide him with that sentence.

    Instead, he delivered the one above. Which, in its clumsiness and insipidness, is most revealing. First of all, note the passivity: “The loss of Daniel Pearl.” He wasn’t “lost.” He was kidnapped and beheaded. He was murdered on a snuff video. He was specifically targeted, seized as a trophy, a high-value scalp. And the circumstances of his “loss” merit some vigor in the prose. Yet Obama can muster none.

    Read the rest.

    Related post here.

     
    • Obi's Sister 9:38 AM on 05/22/2010 Permalink | Reply

      Mark Steyn is the crown jewel of the anti-jihad. In a different time, he’d be sitting on a throne, no doubt.

    • backyardconservative 9:40 AM on 05/22/2010 Permalink | Reply

      Every time I think of Daniel Pearl I cry.

      Nothing illustrates more the cold heart and bizarre detachment of this president. Freedom isn’t free. You have to be willing to fight for it or it is lost.

      • Jill 10:06 AM on 05/22/2010 Permalink | Reply

        I added a photo of the very handsome Mr. Pearl.

    • Quite Rightly 6:03 PM on 05/22/2010 Permalink | Reply

      I remember well the events leading up to the death of Daniel Pearl. A parade of American leftists were tripping over each other in their eagerness to tell the world how cruel the U.S. was being to Muslims everywhere. Saner folk were warning these leftists that their remarks were pinning bull’s eyes on American backs. After Daniel Pearl’s brutal murder, some of those leftists had their official leftist spokesperson withdrawn, and have not been heard from again. . . . in public. Judging from the Obama administration’s statements and actions, I’ll bet those lefties still have plenty of influence in the smoke-filled rooms.

  • Quite Rightly 3:34 PM on 05/21/2010 Permalink | Reply
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    What a Deal: A Ground Zero Mosque and Sharia Law in the U.S. 

    Who could resist a two-fer like that?

    Not surprisingly, the imam spearheading this mosque is a big supporter of Muslim law ruling American Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, and everybody else, and has written that the purpose of this mosque is to lay the groundwork to establish shariah law in the U.S.

    This link will take you to a petition to stop the building of the mega-mosque in the Ground Zero kill zone. I strongly encourage you to make your opposition known to Mayor Bloomberg, the Financial District Committee who approved this plan, and Community Board No. 1 who gave them authority to do so.

    You are asked to be polite in your communications by blogger Pamela Geller of Atlas Shrugs, co-founder of the human rights group, Stop Islamization of America (SIOA), which is hosting a rally at Ground Zero on June 6 at noon to protest the construction of this mosque.

    More at Bread upon the Waters.

     
  • Pat Austin 6:26 PM on 05/12/2010 Permalink | Reply
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    White House to Slash NYC Anti-Terror Funds 

    This via The New York Post.

    Because we’re no longer in danger from terrorists…

    The Obama administration will announce tomorrow it has slashed anti-terror funds for New York City, despite the attempted Times Square bombing less than two weeks ago that underscored the enormous threat to the city.

    The Department of Homeland Security informed New York officials yesterday that grants to the city were cut 27 percent for mass transit security and 25 percent for port security.

    The mass transit funds dropped $42 million, from $153 million last year to $111 this year.  Port security funds suffered a $11.2 million cut, from $45 million to $33.8 million, officials said.

     
  • Quite Rightly 8:35 AM on 05/06/2010 Permalink | Reply
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    Times Square Bomber Dropped from Terror Watch List 

    It looks like the Times Square car bomber was dropped from the terrorist watch list shortly before he got his citizenship in 2009–at just about the same time that surveillance of the Fort Hood shooter and the Christmas Day bomber also stopped. This sickening revelation comes via AJ at The Strata-Sphere, who has been connecting the dots on the Obama administration’s reduction of Clinton and Bush era surveillance of suspicious behavior by potential terrorists.

     
    • backyardconservative 9:49 AM on 05/06/2010 Permalink | Reply

      Our worst fears about this administration.

      We have yet to experience a worse terror attack, but the rate of attempts has been intensifying hasn’t it. We can’t keep counting on ignorance–theirs or ours.

  • Jill 4:49 PM on 05/04/2010 Permalink | Reply
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    Contessa gets frustrated 

    Contessa Brewer: Not just a pretty face . . .

    You have to go to Treacher for the punch line.

    My related post here.

     
    • rubyslipperblog 5:20 PM on 05/04/2010 Permalink | Reply

      Once again, the leftists’ hopes for a round of “right-wing extremists are dangerous” talking points has been …”failed.”

    • Sherry 5:37 PM on 05/04/2010 Permalink | Reply

      The moment someone who espouses right wing sensibilities acts inappropriately, they shall all feel vindicated for every piece of vitriol they’ve ever espoused.

  • Mary Sue 12:15 AM on 05/04/2010 Permalink | Reply
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    Times Square suspect arrested at JFK 

    Breaking News

    NEW YORK (BNO NEWS) — Authorities on early Tuesday arrested a U.S. citizen of Pakistani descent as a suspect in last Saturday’s failed car bombing in Times Square, according to news reports.
    NBC News reported that a man, who was identified as Shahzad Faisal, was taken into custody shortly after midnight EDT. NBC News initially reported that the arrest took place in Connecticut, but CNN reports that the man was arrested at JFK International Airport as he tried to board a flight overseas.

    Shahzad Faisal Facebook page currently being linked on Twitter. There is no confirmation this is the actual Facebook page of the suspect, however.
    Gateway Pundit has video from Fox News’ breaking news report. DOJ to hold a press conference at 1:30 AM.

    UPDATE: Details of the press conference posted at Ruby Slippers

     
    • richard mcenroe 12:30 AM on 05/04/2010 Permalink | Reply

      “Dear Little Miss Attila reader:

      I apologize for the fact that my weblog is offline once more. I’ve put in an inquiry with my hosting service, and assume that there’s been some sort of administrative problem. We should have this fixed by mid-morning tomorrow.

      Thanks!

      Joy McCann”

      • rubyslipperblog 12:44 AM on 05/04/2010 Permalink | Reply

        I hope she is back online soon. I will post a note on my blog. The Lonely Conservative was offline after her blog was hacked this weekend.

      • Jill 5:26 AM on 05/04/2010 Permalink | Reply

        Tuesday morning, and she’s still offlline. What’s going on?

        • rubyslipperblog 2:15 PM on 05/04/2010 Permalink | Reply

          I was out earlier and just checked to see. She is back online citing a technical problem. I am glad it wasn’t hacked. I was starting to get a bit worried conservative bloggers were targeted.

    • Obi's Sister 8:16 PM on 05/04/2010 Permalink | Reply

      Egg meet Face. Thank heavens for the men and women who take their jobs of protecting this country seriously, as opposed to their betters who’d love to just give it away.

  • Jill 10:21 AM on 05/03/2010 Permalink | Reply
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    Monday miscellany 

    Stuff I’ve linked to this morning at my blog:

    Obama, leaving the ‘self’ out of self-deprecation He’s just not that into making jokes about himself.

    New York terror trial follies Madness, especially in light of this weekend’s event.

    How Obama Himself Made More Than ‘Enough Money’ How he struck it rich with Dreams from my Father.

    Teasing from the Captain Piecing together Obama’s obscure past.

    Also recommended:

    Feminists and Franklin Graham

    Thug-in-Chief: We have documents to prove [Washington] is the root of world terrorism

     
  • Quite Rightly 11:46 AM on 05/02/2010 Permalink | Reply
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    Car Bomb Attempt at Times Square 

    Last night around 7 p.m. (from the NY Daily News, via Jihad Watch):

    Three heroic cops and a quick-thinking street vendor stopped a madman from detonating a car bomb in the heart of Times Square Saturday night, law enforcement officials told the Daily News.

    According to Newsweek, the bomb design apparently depended on an timing device triggering commercially made fireworks, which would then ignite containers of gasoline, detonating propane tanks.

    Jihad Watch is reporting something that the U.S. MSM is not:

    [O]ne clue comes from Jihad Watch reader Michael M.: “the vehicle was parked on 45th Street between 7th and 8th avenues in New York City. This is the location of VIACOM, Inc. offices. VIACOM owns Comedy Central. Comedy Central as we all know is the home of ‘South Park’. This information is omitted from every article I’ve come across so far.”

    Back home, according to Newsweek,

    Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said that there is currently no evidence that the bomb was “anything other than a one-off.” But on another show, she said the event was being handled as a “potential terrorist attack … We’re taking this very seriously.”

    More at Bread upon the Waters.

     
    • fuzislippers 12:48 PM on 05/02/2010 Permalink | Reply

      Here’s some really disturbing information from the wonderful guys at BlackFive:

      Mr. Roggio at Long War Journal has some potentially very disturbing news if verified. He has sources in the Intel community that believe this was an attempt by elements of the Mehsud group to hit us at home.

      A top Pakistani Taliban commander took credit for yesterday’s failed car bomb attack in New York City.

      Qari Hussain Mehsud, the top bomb maker for the Movement of the Taliban in Pakistan, said he takes “fully responsibility for the recent attack in the USA.” Qari Hussain made the claim on an audiotape accompanied by images that was released on a YouTube website that calls itself the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan News Channel.

      The tape has yet to be verified, but US intelligence officials contacted by The Long War Journal believe it is legitimate. The Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan News Channel on YouTube was created on April 30. Officials believe it was created to announce the Times Square attack, and Qari Hussain’s statement was pre-recorded.

      The fact that the website and tape were prepared before the attempted bombing lends credence to the idea that the bastards claiming it are responsible. That is a particularly unwelcome development. The only upside is that the idiot making the claim is their top bomb maker and they can’t even get a damn bomb to explode. I have made many types of improvised explosives including fertilizer bombs, briefcase bombs, shaped charges out of metal funnels and just about anything else we could think of. The tricky part is setting them off. It seems that the losers in the Taliban haven’t managed to use their advanced civilization to generate much in the way of technology.

      It is also telling that this attack may have come from the Taliban and not al Qaeda. If they have decided to move their fight out of the Hindu Kush it completely changes the calculus of our war against them. Those who argue we should simply ignore them, now have to contend with the fact that they have decided the battlefield extends to our front yard. (at: http://www.blackfive.net/main/2010/05/car-bomb-in-times-square-by-pakistani-taliban.html )

    • Jill 2:53 PM on 05/02/2010 Permalink | Reply

  • Quite Rightly 9:11 PM on 04/23/2010 Permalink | Reply
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    Bloggers Win Legal Battle to Help Refugees from Islam 

    It is a time for rejoicing whenever we hear of a victory for religious freedom anywhere, but especially here in the U.S.

    Such a victory was gained this week when attorney David Yerushalmi, a Sharia law expert, joined forces with Robert Muise of the Thomas More Law Center to defend the First Amendment rights of two Americans to purchase bus ads that offer help to refugees from Islam. According to the Law Center:

    It was the first time help was publicly offered to people threatened under Islam’s death penalty for leaving Islam. The ads on Miami-Dade buses stated, “Fatwa on your head?  Is your family or community threatening you?  Leaving Islam?  Got questions?  Get Answers!”

    The ten ads, which covered the sides of buses in Miami, were removed within hours of a complaint by CAIR (Council on American-Islamic Relations) that “the ads were ‘offensive to Muslims'” and promoted “bigotry.” The ads had been contracted from Miami-Dade County Transit Authority and paid for by compassionate, courageous patriot-bloggers Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer of the Freedom Defense Initiative and SIOA.

    Quick action by the law offices changed minds at the Transit Authority, which quickly reinstituted the original ten ads and then threw in twenty more.

    Richard Thompson, President of the Law Center, pointed out:

    It’s a bitter irony that American blood is being shed in Iraq and Afghanistan to defend their Islamic Constitutions, while Islamic organizations right here in America are attempting to squelch the constitutional rights to Free Speech of American citizens.

    That’s not surprising in light of a statement by CAIR’s co-founder, Omar Ahmad:

    Islam isn’t in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Koran should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth.

    And CAIR’s disregard for American freedoms is even less surprising considering that the U.S. Attorney General’s Office and the FBI identified it “as a Muslim Brotherhood-Hamas front group.

    Geller called the re-institution of the pulled ads “a major victory for the freedom of speech.”

    Freedom to offend the delicate sensibilities of Muslim terrorists is not that easy to come by these days. Witness the censorship of a South Park Episode 201 mentioning a certain supposedly forbidden name that, interestingly enough, is found frequently enough in news reports listing the names of terrorists.

    As the Law Center pointed out:

    Americans have a right to know the truth. Islam is a religion of intolerance and violence. [emphasis TMLC]

    If you mention that view out loud, though, you won’t be allowed to speak at a National Day of Prayer event at the Pentagon. In that case, you will be in good company, such as that of Reverend Franklin Graham, son of Evangelist Billy Graham, the spiritual advisor of many U.S. Presidents. One of Franklin Graham’s “offensive” statements:

    When you look at what the religion does to women and women alone, it is just horrid. So I speak out for women, I speak out for people who live under Islam who are enslaved under Islam and want them to know that they can be free.

    Religious freedom supporters wishing to make a financial contribution to the religious liberty bus ad campaign, which its founders hope to bring nationwide, can go to Geller’s blog, Atlas Shrugs and click on the “Contribute to Jihad Watch” button.

    Cross posted at Bread upon the Waters.

     
  • Quite Rightly 7:26 AM on 04/13/2010 Permalink | Reply
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    Plot to Bomb Times Square and Grand Central Subway Stations Revealed 

    You may remember the “Beauty Parlor Bomber,” Najibullah Zazi, who was building bombs using hydrogen peroxide in a Denver, Colorado, suburb to use in New York City. It turns out that the plan was for Zazi and two of his former high school buddies, Adis Medunjanin and Zarein Ahmedzay, to kill as many people as possible at the Times Square station and the Grand Central Terminal during rush hour. From the NY Daily News:

    Zazi and his two Queens friends allegedly planned to strap explosives to their bodies and split up, heading for the Grand Central and Times Square stations – the two busiest subway stations in New York City.

    [snip]

    They would board trains on the 1, 2, 3 and 6 lines at rush hour and planned to position themselves in the middle of the packed trains to ensure the maximum carnage when they blew themselves up, sources said.

    During Zazi’s brief visit to Queens from his home in Denver last September, he rode the subway multiple times to the Grand Central and Wall St. stations, scouting where to best spread death and mayhem, the sources said.

    In 2008, the three went to Pakistan to join the Taliban and then went to Wasiristan for “special training.” Zazi, who is being held in a secret location, is set for sentencing in June. His pals have pleaded not guilty. Another conspirator has been captured in Pakistan and is being extradited to the U.S.

    More at Bread upon the Waters.

     
    • backyardconservative 9:32 AM on 04/13/2010 Permalink | Reply

      And the Dems want to close Gitmo and bring the most dangerous terrorists to a little town, Thomson, Illinois, just down the Mississippi from a nuclear power plant and a few hours from Chicago’s O’Hare airport. We have subways too.

      If Eric Holder and the ACLU had their way we wouldn’t even have decent surveillance to find this stuff out.

  • Quite Rightly 10:02 PM on 04/07/2010 Permalink | Reply
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    Breaking: Shoe Bomber Caught on DC to Denver Flight 

    You can be “lighting your shoes on fire” on board a DC to Denver flight. You can be holding a diplomatic passport from Qatar. Your name can be Mohammed al Modadi. Air marshals can tackle you to the floor. Two jet fighters from Buckley Air Force Base can be scrambled to accompany the flight you are on after you are caught “lighting your shoes on fire.”

    All that is possible.

    What is not possible is that you are a “militant Islamic extremist.”

    Ask the president. He knows.

    Update: The FBI says no explosives were found in the diplomat’s shoes after he “allegedly” told air marshalls, “I’m lighting my shoes on fire.” U.S. security officials say the statement may have been “sarcastic.”

    Cross-posted at Bread upon the Waters.

     
    • fuzislippers 10:58 PM on 04/07/2010 Permalink | Reply

      Completely unreal. I don’t believe that anyone can be that naive, that ignorant. Especially someone who was raised as a Muslim. Does he really believe that pretending that jihad doesn’t exist will make it go away? I don’t think so. The more I see of this man’s (insanity?) blithe disregard for this country and its people, the more fearful I become. We are not on a path to anything but the total destruction of the country, values, and beliefs that we’ve all held dear. It breaks my heart.

      • Quite Rightly 8:55 AM on 04/08/2010 Permalink | Reply

        “Blithe disregard for this country and its people.” That really says it all. The cause, whether ideology, mental state, or outside influence, really is a secondary issue, when you come right down to it.

  • backyardconservative 12:21 PM on 03/13/2010 Permalink | Reply
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    Bride of Death 

    The newest American Jihadist. Linked to the Jihad Jane plot, we have another woman, and she’s a single mom. She took her six-year-old son with her on her new path, fleeing the country to Ireland, of all places.

    The Wall St. Journal has the story, For the Love of Islam, and photos.

    Let’s call her the Bride of Death.

     
  • backyardconservative 4:58 PM on 03/10/2010 Permalink | Reply
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    At least the neighbors knew she was nuts… 

    They just didn’t think she was dangerous. Chicago Tribune:

    “She was the weird, weird, weird lady who lived across the hall,” said Eric R. Newell, 36, who works for a National Football League sports agent. “We always called her the crazy lady.”His wife, Kristy, recalled that LaRose “talked to her cats all the time.”

    The Newells, who moved out of the four-unit building about 18 months ago, said LaRose rarely left her apartment except at night, when she would go drinking and get into fights. They never heard her discuss politics or extremist plots, they said.

    “We knew she was crazy,” Newell said. “We never knew she was dangerous.”

    And the boyfriend claims to be clueless.

    Usually after a murderer is discovered in their midst the neighbors tell the press–he was so quiet, maybe did odd jobs around the neighborhood.

    This description is a bit too broad:

    “She appeared to be one of those people who spend a lot of time online and go to all these radical websites and chat rooms,” said one law enforcement source, who, like others interviewed, requested anonymity when discussing the case.

    I guess we’re safe because we talk about politics a lot.

     
    • fuzislippers 11:05 PM on 03/10/2010 Permalink | Reply

      I have been known to talk to my cats, so I hope talking politics a lot makes me safe. heh

      • backyardconservative 11:19 PM on 03/10/2010 Permalink | Reply

        I have been known to talk to my dogs.

        And occasionally my family. heh

        We will all be vigilant.

        Will there come a book. How to recognize a terrorist for dummies.

        or maybe random acts of kindness, um terrorism.

        chicken soup for the nutcase terrorist wannabe soul

        • fuzislippers 11:38 PM on 03/10/2010 Permalink | Reply

          My favorite thing about this is now they are saying “see, we can’t profile for young Muslim men who buy one-way tickets in cash.’ Not that this whacko ever planned to actually blow herself up, mind, but now we can’t even think about profiling sensibly. Grr.

          • backyardconservative 1:26 AM on 03/11/2010 Permalink | Reply

            Yeah. The only solution is for all of us to submit to full body scans. Starting at O’Hare already.

            And yet our voting in Illinois doesn’t require photo ID.

            • fuzislippers 1:50 AM on 03/11/2010 Permalink | Reply

              Ditto. Twice. Full body scans starting at Logan, and no id of any kind required to vote here in MA. All you need is a street address (available in any phone book or on any map). Way to cut down on voter fraud, huh?

      • BoR 11:19 AM on 03/11/2010 Permalink | Reply

        I talk to my cats. They ignore me for the most part and that’s as it should be.

        • BoR 11:20 AM on 03/11/2010 Permalink | Reply

          It’s when the cats start telling you to kill people … that’s where the problems start.

    • backyardconservative 1:32 PM on 03/11/2010 Permalink | Reply

      Excellent:)

  • Jill 6:48 PM on 03/06/2010 Permalink | Reply
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    Shoes for Obama 

    Who’s A Terrorist Now?

     
  • Pat Austin 7:32 AM on 02/23/2010 Permalink | Reply
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    Is There “Middle Ground” on Interrogations? 

    MarcThiessen, author of Courting Disaster, makes a good argument in his piece in the Washington Post yesterday for finding some middle ground in the interrogation debate. Coming on the heels of reports that new al Qaeda capture Mullah Baradar may not be cooperating under interrogation by the Pakistanis as much as we had hoped, Thiessen reports that the CIA has requested Barader be transferred to US custody.

    At one time that suggestion may have put substantial fear into Barader, but no more. Once Obama revealed our interrogation secrets to the enemy, there is no fear of the unknown with which to bargain.

    More here

     
  • Pat Austin 10:49 AM on 02/21/2010 Permalink | Reply
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    Linda Chavez at The Washington Examiner … 

    Linda Chavez at The Washington Examiner makes note today of the sheer hypocrisy of Team Obama’s terrorist interrogation program.

    Now, I am all for going after terrorists and killing them, if we can, before they hit us. But it is sheer hypocrisy to say that we have the right to kill a terror suspect, even a U.S. citizen, so long as we do it thousands of miles away; but if we happen to capture someone red-handed — or should I say red-underweared, in the case of would-be bomber Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab? — we have to read them their Miranda rights or at least make sure they’re not handled too roughly.

    She raises some interesting points.  What, exactly, would happen if we were to actually catch Osama bin Laden?  Would we turn him over to Pakistan or bring him here to meet with attorneys?

    Frightening thoughts, both.

     
    • fuzislippers 11:45 AM on 02/21/2010 Permalink | Reply

      This is typical leftist logic, though. The appearance (of propriety and fairness) trumps reality. Every time. BO took how many months to do exactly what President Bush would have done, and he’s hailed by the left as a thoughtful, nuanced leader?

      Besides, BO loves him some rendition. So unless bin Laden hops on a plane and comes to the U. S., he can count of hours of torture fun with U. S. approval, but by not the U. S. Ain’t worship at the altar of appearance grand?

  • fuzislippers 9:08 PM on 02/19/2010 Permalink | Reply
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    Lost in Translation: Do We Need Arab Muslims as Translators? 

    Okay, so I’m not usually so unaccommodating when people ask for my help, but I was a bit put off by a recent email–well, not the email itself, that was very pleasant–that I (and I’m sure everyone signed up on Pajamasmedia) received asking that I post a post they posted (yeah, well, you know how it goes) about the five Muslim “translators” who tried to poison our soldiers at Fort Jackson.  Being that it was PJ media, I thought, woohoo! This will be great.  Their stuff usually is.  But not this time, this time they missed the mark.  Big time.

    Here’s a link to the Pajamasmedia post (yes, the same one I said I wouldn’t link to, go figure), but what it says, in short is that what we have here is a very tense and difficult situation because we need (yes, they say “need”) people from Arab countries who are Muslims to come to America and learn how to be military translators.  Translation: they come here, get nice salaries, living quarters, free education, food, clothing, and a zoom-path to U. S. citizenship . . . well, if they don’t do something like try to suicide bomb a bunch of soldiers or you know, poison an entire military base.  So according to this post, we need them (yes, they really say “need”).  But gee, there’s this whole jihad complication, and it’s just not clear, can’t really tell which Muslims are the nice, cuddly kind and which are going to shoot you in the face.  Catch-22 (yes, they say that, too).

    Uh huh.

    Here’s an idea.  Let’s NOT bring Arab Muslims into this country to work in our military, especially (here’s a genius idea) not when the Muslims in question are all young men.  D’oh.  And while we’re at it, let’s get some of our own kids trained in Arabic . . . or bring some of the Arab Christians over who are persecuted (and killed in the streets).  Why not give them a shot at citizenship (you know, without us getting shot at for our trouble)?

    When did this nutso idea that we can buy people out of their fervent, deeply-held religious convictions take over?  Seriously?  Can someone offer you enough money or “the perfect job” to deny your religious beliefs?  If you’re a Christian, what amount of money would it take for you to deny Jesus Christ?  What’s the going rate for an atheist to believe in God?  How much are you willing to sell your soul for?  That’s what we’re doing, basically, when we try to buy loyalties in-country and when we try to bribe radical Muslims with the carrot of U. S. citizenship (do you really think they even want it?).  But you say, Fuzzy, there are large Arab populations throughout the United States, people who live peacefully among us and speak out against jihad and violence.  And I say, okay, so why are we dragging young Arab men out of some foreign desert to come here again?

     
    • backyardconservative 10:51 PM on 02/19/2010 Permalink | Reply

      It’s a problem. As I understand it, there is no standard Arabic. Every country has a different dialect. So even if our guys here learn it they need to go overseas to perfect it. I suppose that’s why we imported translators.

      Your idea of giving persecuted minorities a chance is a good one.

      • fuzislippers 11:34 PM on 02/19/2010 Permalink | Reply

        I’d heard this about Arabic and wondered if there were a “standarized” form (as there is of Chinese). Interesting. But our needs would not be for “perfected” Arabic (of whatever dialect), right? Unless we’re talking spies, and then we’re hardly likely to use actual Arabs for that (unless they’re double agent types, maybe?). Our needs would be for translation purposes, likely in the field and in capture situations (how do you say, You have the right to remain silent . . . heh).

        • Yukio Ngaby 12:02 PM on 02/20/2010 Permalink | Reply

          Standarized Chinese? What are you talking about? The Chinese writing system?

          You know, uh… not every Arab-speaking Muslim is a terrorist. The response to just not hire any Muslims ever seems just a tad extreme. And actually fluency in languages really help in all things governmental, not just espionage. Communication is an essential.

          • fuzislippers 12:44 PM on 02/20/2010 Permalink | Reply

            I thought that Mandarin was a sort of “standard” Chinese; obviously I was mistaken.

            Uh, I didn’t say that every Arab-speaking Muslim IS a terrorist. In fact, I said that we have Arab-speaking Muslims right here in America who may be interested in doing the translation jobs. Which also means that I did not say to not hire any Muslims. Um, did you read the post?

            Also, with regard to fluency in languages helping the government, agreed. But this incident was about Army translators, I believe, not about “all things government.”

            • Yukio Ngaby 8:09 PM on 02/20/2010 Permalink | Reply

              Mandarin is the most popular of the Chinese dialects (languages), but there are various spoken languages in China. Cantonese and Hoklo being among other major spoken forms of Chinese– if you want to put it that way.

              Yes, I did read the post. You said: “Here’s an idea. Let’s NOT bring Arab Muslims into this country to work in our military, especially (here’s a genius idea) not when the Muslims in question are all young men.” I should have written not hire FOREIGN Muslims in my first comment. My bad on that.

              But are you really going to deny that the implication in your statement is that young, Muslim men from Arabic-speaking countries are odds on likely to be murdering terrorists or terrorist sympathizers and not to be trusted?

              Your post also implies that foreign Muslims are fundamentalists that the US is simply trying to buy off. “When did this nutso idea that we can buy people out of their fervent, deeply-held religious convictions take over? […] That’s what we’re doing, basically, when we try to buy loyalties in-country and when we try to bribe radical Muslims with the carrot of U. S. citizenship”

              Does being Muslim necessarily equate an anti-American mind-set? Your post suggests this. Did the US hire these five men in question knowing they were radical fundamentalists? If so, then your question would indeed be valid– and their hiring would have shown incalculable stupidity on the part of the US military or whoever did the hiring.

              How many terrorist incidents involving foreign translators do we know of? This one involving five people (if there are more please write posts about it). What percentage do these five people make up of militrary translators?

              As far as bringing in American Muslims, wasn’t the Fort Hood shooter Nidal an American citizen? Victor Davis Hanson wrote an interesting article regarding the various attacks that are perpetrated by young Muslim men in both the U.S. and Canada that are written off by the media as being the products of frustration– Pundette had the link VDH not long after the Fort Hood shooting.

              Do these incidents suggest better candidates now live in the U.S.? Is it even fair for me to suggest that these incidents necessarily disqualify all American Muslims from these translation jobs because they might be violently anti-American?

              This seems to be essentially the line of reasoning you base your argument on. You are saying that foreign, Arabic-speaking, Muslim men are such a potential threat that any one of them can be a fundamentalist murdering terrorist, so, just to be safe, let’s not hire any of them. Is this an unfair interpretation of your post?

              You wrote: “Also, with regard to fluency in languages helping the government, agreed. But this incident was about Army translators, I believe, not about ‘all things government.'”

              Yes, the incident was about Army translators. But the military is part of the government. And surely you are not suggesting that terrorist infiltrators are less of threat if they are working as translators in the State Dept. or with the FBI or DSS rather than the military… The problems regarding Arabic translators is not merely exclusive to the military. It effects all parts of the government that needs translators.

              Clearly the US has a problem it has to address as the Pajamasmedia post that you loathe suggests. It IS a complicated problem. The answer is NOT simply to say “let’s not hire foreign Muslim men because they could all be radical terrorists.”

              • fuzislippers 8:13 PM on 02/20/2010 Permalink | Reply

                Thanks for the info on Chinese, it’s obviously not something I know much about, and I appreciate your comments.

                I also appreciate your extended comments on my post; it’s always good to hear another point of view, I think.

    • Quite Rightly 10:56 PM on 02/19/2010 Permalink | Reply

      Fuzzy,

      I really like the idea of giving the jobs to Arab Christians. Two birds with one stone–saving both American lives and Arab Christian lives.

      • fuzislippers 11:37 PM on 02/19/2010 Permalink | Reply

        Thanks. That does seem to make more sense than importing potential powder kegs, and we do have a significant Arab Muslim population here who are peaceful, non-jihadist types who might be interested in working as translators. I just don’t think it’s a great idea (as this incident at Fort Jackson seems to support) to bring in people off the streets–who have clearly not been thoroughly vetted or background-checked to find out their ideology/attitude/whatever you want to call it.

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