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  • just a conservative girl 7:07 PM on 07/02/2012 Permalink | Reply
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    Quote of the Day – Smitty 

    Americans, we live in a world that has entitlements, and those entitlements have to be guarded by bureaucrats, with legislation. Who’s gonna do it? You? You, Mr. Teapartier? I have a greater responsibility than you could possibly fathom.

    You weep for Liberty, and you curse the Progressives. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know. That Liberty’s death, while tragic, probably saved government positions. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves government positions.

    You don’t want the truth because deep down in places you don’t talk about at parties, you want those entitlements, you need those entitlements. You tell one-word jokes like ‘honor’; ‘code’; ‘loyalty’.
    We use these words as the backbone of a life spent extending something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very entitlements that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide them. I would rather you just said: ‘Thank you’, and went on your way.

    Otherwise, I suggest you crack open a .doc, and start finding ways to extend Progress. Either way, I don’t give a damn what Liberty you think you are entitled to.”

    Smitty at The Other McCain

    Simply brilliant.

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    • SignPainterGuy 11:46 PM on 07/02/2012 Permalink | Reply

      Smitty is from Jolly Olde Engalund (I think), so he should know about the entitlement mentality !

    • joyannaadams 5:32 PM on 07/03/2012 Permalink | Reply

      You know…SignPainterGuy…I know a few Brits that think America is stupid for not having Universal Health Care, and they are STILL upset about the Revolution: To them, America was an ungrateful *$&%…for leaving their mother. What they must teach them in their schools, we can only imagine.

      • SignPainterGuy 7:11 PM on 07/03/2012 Permalink | Reply

        Joyanna, I`ve had the pleasure of knowing two Scots, two Brits and an Aussie. They were all hoots to be around and work with, but since that was before I had i`net and learned just how different our healthcare systems REALLY are, I didn`t know what to ask, but on the few occasions that the subject came up, the youngest Brit seemed to like socialized med., but was under no illusions about the high taxes and regs that go with it ! The young Aussie seemed better educated than the youngest Brit, who had served in the military and was quite ruff as a result !

        I thoroughly enjoyed the accents and learning that we are three different cultures separated by a common language ! If a Brit says he`ll “Knock you up”, don`t get excited, he just means he`ll “Knock on your door.”

  • just a conservative girl 10:27 AM on 05/23/2012 Permalink | Reply
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    When the Left Attacks – Conservative Blogger on the Run with Wife and Five Children 

    That’s right, a conservative blogger is on the run with his wife and five children.  Why you ask?  Because some lunatic “liberal activist” is unhappy with the reporting done about him.  This is a career criminal who has spent time in jail for a variety of offenses, who is now well-funded by the institutional left; Barbara Streisand and Teresa Heinz Kerry to name just two.  What did this blogger do?  Tell the truth about how a career criminal is being financed by the who’s who of the institutional left.  You know, the party of tolerance.  The party of underprivileged and saviors of the downtrodden.  

    I am sick to death about hearing about how the “Tea Party” is so scary.  We are asking the government to stop wasting tax dollars.  We are not funding terrorists to intimidate bloggers who have young children.  At least one of his children is still in elementary school.   I have met one of his sons, a very charming young lad.  Their lives have been disrupted and they had to be removed from school because of this loony.  

    The next time someone on the left talks about the danger of the Tea Party and conservatives tell them this story.  Because sure as shit they didn’t hear about in the media.  

    Say a prayer today for Stacy McCain and his family as they deal with this bomber and career criminal.  As a Christian I will also be saying one for the Streisand and Kerry too.  Maybe, just maybe, God will show them how to use their consciences.  Although I am not holding my breath on that one.  

    Nice Deb has a nice write-up on Blog about write about Brett day which is scheduled for this Friday.  He can’t come after as all. 

    Just to show what a liar this man is, here is another for your viewing pleasure. 

     

    If there was ever a time for you to hit a bloggers tip jar.  This is it.  His wife had to leave her job and they moved their family.  Not something that people plan on.  Go here if you feel so inclined.  

    If you are a blogger, please go to fellow Potluck contributor Nice Deb to hear about this project to get Brett’s story all over the blogosphere.  You never know, just maybe some reasonable democrats will see what has become of their party.  

     
  • just a conservative girl 7:50 PM on 04/21/2012 Permalink | Reply
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    See Bloggers Do Make a Difference – FCRC Will Be Giving Free Tickets to GOP Debate 

    Yesterday I wrote about the local republican party here in Fairfax County, Virginia and the upcoming GOP debates for the open senate seat.  You can read that here, in case you missed it.  

    The general gist of the post was that even though I received an email by the chairman of the party stating that the tickets for the upcoming debate in Northern Virginia would be free, the Fairfax County Republican Committee was requesting you volunteer for two hours in order to get your free tickets.  My point was that it was deceptive and wrong to handle it in this fashion.  

    I not only blogged about it, but I also used my social networking connections to spread the word about this.  I emailed the Chairman.  I contacted larger blogs too.  Around noon time the head of the FCRC called my friend Phil to let him know that I would be getting my ticket without being forced into doing volunteer work.  

    Great for me, but what about the rest of the people in NOVA?  This was never about me getting a ticket, this was about allowing the voters access to the candidates so they can make up their own minds who they are going to vote for.  

    For those who don’t live in this area you may not be aware of the background.  George Allen is our former governor and senator.  He was the one that made that now infamous Mecacca comment six years ago, which played a part in him losing his re-election bid to the senate.  For some in the tea party and grassroots movement George Allen represents all that is wrong with the republican party.  He is conservative in many ways, but he also did some big government and fiscally irresponsible things during his tenure in the senate.  He is considered by some to be part of the good ol’ boys club of the republican leadership that is more interested in power than in conservatism.  They are looking for to elect another of the three candidates who are running. 

    They feel very strongly that FCRC is in the tank for the Allen campaign.  Many feel that they were also in the tank for Romney.  While I do know that many are Romney supporters, I can’t say for certain that they are “in the tank” for any candidate.  I can’t get into the head of another person.  I just can tell you how other grassroots supporters are feeling and discussing with me among others.  

    The post got enough of a response that emails and phone calls were flying this morning and this afternoon.  The bottom line is this.  All tickets will be free for everyone without any strings attached.  All you need to do is go pick them up at the FCRC headquarters in Fairfax.  

    This is the best solution for everyone.  There are people who are not able to volunteer for the party as they are putting their efforts towards one of the candidates.  There are also people who may be elderly or handicapped, and can’t make it to the Fairfax office for two hours.  

    This debate is for the voters, not for the party to use as some tool to force get people to volunteer for a few hours.  This came down from on high.  I am not sure exactly how high up in the party it went, but high enough that FCRC has backed down and tickets are available on a first come first served basis.  

    For other bloggers out there, the lesson here is that no matter how small your readership may be, if they are willing to put actions to your words, you have accomplished something.  I want to say a special thank you to Smitty over at The Other McCain for helping get the word out on this.  

    I am looking forward to hearing what the Bishop has to say in the debates.  Check out his website.  He is a good man and I think would make an awesome Senator.  

    Can I just say that Smitty and I ROCK!!!!  

    Thanks to the party for getting the message that it is about the voters, not the party.  We deserve the chance to hear the candidates in their own words so we can decide for ourselves who will represent us in November. 

     
    • Sherry 6:21 AM on 04/28/2012 Permalink | Reply

      You both do rock –awesome job! And I completely agree with you about Romney, that the establishment picked its candidate long before the primaries. And agree (though I’m on the other side of the Potomac), that Allen is more GOP than conservative.

  • just a conservative girl 11:18 AM on 04/11/2012 Permalink | Reply
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    Are we so worried about right vs. left that we have forgotten right and wrong? 

    I am beginning to think so.  Much has been made about National Review’s Rich Lowry firing John Derbyshire.  I would think it was a pretty simple clear-cut case.  Derbyshire wrote an article about his version of “The Talk” you have with your children.  His version was for people of white and Asian backgrounds.  It was in a word, disgusting.  He flat-out says that black should be judged by a different standard as whites, especially in terms of politicians.  I don’t know about you, but I will take Tim Scott over Nancy Pelosi any day of the week and twice on Sundays.

    He also went to try to demonstrate that blacks are stupid and violent.  He used some “evidence” to back up his claims, but what he didn’t do was talk about how socio-economics factor into those numbers.  Take a good hard look at any poor performing school district anywhere in the country and the standardized test results are lower.  Not all poor performing schools are in predominately black areas.

    He also said to tell your white children to stay out of mostly black neighborhoods.  Does he include the neighborhoods of Prince George’s County Maryland as well?  That is the most affluent black community in the country, or did he just mean instruct your children to stay out of neighborhoods that have high crime rates?  Of course, any parent that isn’t living in one of those areas will tell their children that.  But again, not all high crime areas across the country are black communities.

    This man is free to think and feel what ever he so chooses to.  That isn’t the issue.  The issue becomes does National Review have to employ someone who so blatantly demonstrates those views?  I don’t think they do.

    I have read different things across the conservative blogosphere in regards to his firing.  Many are upset about the fact that he was let go and say that Lowry has no right to fire him.  Why exactly is that?  Stacy McCain has explained it that since Derbyshire has been expressing these types of views for quite sometime the only difference is that the left complained about it.  While there is truth to that in part, it isn’t the whole truth.  Derbyshire has always been  provocative in his writings, but he has never gone this far before.  This was an outing of his racist views.

    — n
    1. the belief that races have distinctive cultural characteristics determined by hereditary factors and that this endows some races with an intrinsic superiority over others

    There can be no doubt that his little rant is racist by the true definition of the word.

    Now, the right spends a great deal of time pointing out the racist views of those on the left.  Pointing out that the likes of Al Sharpton is considered a hero by many on the left and is allowed to spew his views on television.  There is currently an online petition going around asking MSNBC to fire him.  There are all sorts of things being said about how Eric Holder is doing nothing about the threats made against George Zimmerman, the man who shot and killed a black teenager in what he claims to be self-defense.  The truth is that the Eric Holder has no power over what the black panthers are currently doing.  That is a state issue.  The person that should be answering the question of why nothing is being done is AG Pam Bondi or the local police departments.  Not Eric Holder.  It is easy to make him a target, but in this case he shouldn’t be one.  But AG Bondi is a conservative republican so the questions are not forthcoming.

    If you think that it the right thing to do to take Al Sharpton off the air for his views, then how can it be wrong that Lowry fired Derbyshire?  What Derbyshire said was equally offensive.

    I have heard others say that Lowry should have used this as way to disprove him.  Others have said the answer to bad speech is more speech.  I don’t disagree with either of those statements.  But neither justifies keeping him employed.  You can actually do both things; fire him and prove him wrong.

    There is right and wrong in the world.  Derbyshire can be as racist as he wants to be.  That is his business.  But Rick Lowry has a responsibility to National Review and to its readers to give fair and accurate accounts of the happenings in the world.  Giving a platform to a man who holds the views that blacks are stupid and violent by nature is neither of those things.  Good riddens, Mr. Derbyshire.

    It is time that we admit that racism is neither right nor left.  It is a human condition.  Racism knows no boundaries when it comes to politics or to social strata.  It will rear its ugly head in just about any place and by people of any color or background.

     
    • fuzislippers 12:36 PM on 04/11/2012 Permalink | Reply

      Hmm, I’m not sure I get your point here, JACG. We know that racism is neither left nor right; racism is not a political ideology (though it does make up a substantial portion of the leftist ideology and has for a hundred or more years). And yes, Derbyshire can be as racist as he wants to be. I don’t have to read his horrific and horrifying rants.

      What Derbyshire wrote dripped with vileness and racism, no doubt about it. It was horrible and hurt my heart to read it. However, I never would have read it if there wasn’t this atmosphere of condemnation every time someone says something someone doesn’t like, is “offended” by (or offended by, genuinely), or angered by, etc. I’d never even heard of the site where he posted, come to think of it. My point is that shining a spotlight on every racist comment means more people read it, more people are exposed to it, and to what end? National Review can certainly fire anyone they want for any reason they want (as a conservative I support that), but I’m becoming increasingly annoyed by and frustrated with the “thought police” degeneration of America.

      We can’t stop racism by firing every racist, we can’t combat it with equal doses of intolerance and hate, and we darned sure can’t save our republic if we actively support silencing someone with whom we disagree.

      I don’t want to silence antiSemites or Islamofascists or American or any other racists; in fact, I want them to keep talking. A lot. The more they talk, the more they reveal about themselves and their agenda. If that means that we have to stop reading things that offend us, then so be it. No one is tying anyone to a chair and forcing them to read/hear/see things they don’t like. Change the channel, find something else to read, whatever. But this constant demand for people’s livelihoods simply because they express vile THOUGHTS strikes me as the exact opposite of what we fight for in this country.

      • just a conservative girl 1:04 PM on 04/11/2012 Permalink | Reply

        No one is trying to silence him. He just can’t do it at NR anymore. I am sure there are sites who would love to have him with his new found claim to fame. Or he can set up his own blog like you and I have done. He can say whatever he wants. This is about whether a mainstream conservative magazine/website will tolerate his myopic views.

        • fuzislippers 1:08 PM on 04/11/2012 Permalink | Reply

          But they didn’t. NRO fired him, as is their right to do so even though they didn’t publish the piece.

          • just a conservative girl 1:15 PM on 04/11/2012 Permalink | Reply

            And my point being that they were right to do so. His piece didn’t further the conversation on race we have to have in this country. All it did was feed into stereotypes. His and those of the left that the right is a bunch of racists.

            • fuzislippers 1:19 PM on 04/11/2012 Permalink | Reply

              I guess this is where you lose me. If the measure of “acceptable speech” is whether or not it furthers some warm and fuzzy “conversation on” [insert your favorite leftist categorization], then we are in deep deep trouble.

              • just a conservative girl 1:45 PM on 04/11/2012 Permalink | Reply

                The right does the same thing. He can have his views. But NR decided to have standards. Something that MSNBC and HBO refuses to do. I much prefer having standards on the right.
                This is a pattern of behavior with this man. It isn’t a one time thing. He can have his views, but those views are going to limit the platform that you have. He seems to prefer to surround himself with only a certain types of people. Let those people be the racists just like him.

                • fuzislippers 4:50 PM on 04/11/2012 Permalink | Reply

                  I have no problem with NRO firing him; that is well within their rights (and Derbyshire’s piece really was beyond the pale).

            • fuzislippers 4:53 PM on 04/11/2012 Permalink | Reply

              I always wonder about this when I hear it. Just what does a conversation among 350 million people sound like? What would be the goal of such a conversation? Who would take part (as obviously everyone in the country cannot)? What would they be empowered to decide? I guess it could take place in Congress or in state legislatures, but it just seems a trite thing to say that is not really helpful at all. (I’m so NOT saying you’re trite; it’s something that we’ve been hearing for decades, this “conversation on [race, gender, sexual orientation, etc.] that we have to have as a country.” I’m not big on collectivism, particularly when it comes to my personal morals.

              • just a conservative girl 5:20 PM on 04/11/2012 Permalink | Reply

                I don’t know if it is about morals. I am a firm believer that you cannot legislate them, but it is about honesty. This whole Zimmerman thing brought a few things to light. To me, in any case. Conservatives had no real dog in this fight, but jumped all over it anyway. It was a knee jerk reaction to the rush to judgement about racism. Zimmerman could be a racist (I don’t happen to think there is proof of that) and shot that kid because of it. I think the more likely scenario is that he stereotyped that kid based on his dress and color and then things snowballed out of control and a teenager ended up dead. Why the rush judgement? Why the rush to defend a man who neither asked nor needed conservatives to defend him? Both sides acted hastily and what is getting lost is justice and the truth. We need to ask ourselves why. If we don’t it will just keep happening over and over again. Sooner or later we will have major riots and many will be killed, injured, and heaven knows what else. It is an emotional topic. One that most would rather avoid. I think it needs to start with people looking within themselves.

                • fuzislippers 12:26 PM on 04/12/2012 Permalink | Reply

                  Whether or not one hates someone or a group of people because of their race is a moral issue. We can’t stop it, no matter what we do.

                  As far as the conservative push-back on the leftist narrative, there’s nothing wrong with that. We (to this day) don’t know what happened, though Zimmerman being arrested would point to the police thinking something is wrong with what happened. And if so, that’s good, the police should decide, not the public.

                  The push-back, as you must realize, was based in the immediate condemnation of Zimmerman as a white RAAAACIST who targeted Martin simply because he’s black. That’s the left’s pet narrative (never held up by actual facts, of course). But we just don’t know that to be the case; you’ve already tried and convicted Zimmerman, that much is clear. But based on what?

                  The fact that leftists saw the name “George Zimmerman” and immediately assumed he was white (and probably Jewish, too, another group they loathe) and a conservative, and then started with the exact same rhetoric that followed the AZ shooting by Loughner (whom they also claimed was a white supremacist conservative, when in fact he was not. And nor is Zimmerman.) is the reason that conservatives pushed back. It was important to disrupt the white males shooting people on a whim narrative. You’d see this in any other situation.

                  Is it really surprising that conservatives point out the clear lies that leftists were spinning about the Zimmerman case? He was neither white nor a conservative. But the left needed him to be. Surely you see that?

    • iainswife 1:48 PM on 04/11/2012 Permalink | Reply

      I agree with JACG, in fact we had a facebook discussion and I think the result is we are on the same page. Derbyshire is welcome to his views. I do not share them. I suspect he believes he is merely being “honest” but the only thing that seems clear to me is that he is being honestly racist. National Review was right to refuse to associate with him despite a long-time relationship because Derbyshire’s views are not acceptable at NR or anywhere else for that matter. Firing him was the right thing to do. Where I think Rich was wrong was in not fisking Derbyshire’s article. JACG gave specific rebuttals to Derbyshire’s points, Rich really didn’t. By not doing so, Rich has not forwarded the conservative viewpoints in the race discussion. Merely run away from them. Rich Lowry is a good man but the ball was dropped.

      • fuzislippers 12:35 PM on 04/12/2012 Permalink | Reply

        But being “honestly racist” is not a crime. Or it shouldn’t be. People shouldn’t fear for their livelihoods because they don’t think the way “they should.” That’s insane.

        I guess this is something that I am invested in because as an educator, I know that I can’t use my own name to blog, I can’t espouse the most rational conservative views because, to the people who decide my career, they are unacceptable. We’ve seen a bunch of conservative bloggers shut down (theBlogProf, for instance) because they don’t think correctly. Yeah, Derbyshire’s article was disgusting, but isn’t this a country of free speech? Should we really be destroying individuals for what they honestly think? Now, if NRO had published that piece, and they didn’t, then I would blame the editor who allowed it, not the writer.

        • fuzislippers 12:48 PM on 04/12/2012 Permalink | Reply

          Oh, and as an extension of this thought and what JACG said about the “conversation about race we need to have as a country,” how on earth are we to have such a “conversation” if we don’t allow people to say what they think if what they think is abhorrent to us? Wouldn’t that be counter-productive?

        • just a conservative girl 1:06 PM on 04/12/2012 Permalink | Reply

          I see that as apples and oranges. Your job as an educator is not the same thing as putting something in writing that reflects on your employer. It isn’t about his thoughts or beliefs. It is about a standard that NR chooses to have. No one is saying he doesn’t have the right to his thoughts. What I and NR are saying is that you can’t have represent NR’s brand. I have seen people fired over the years for things that they have done that have been an embarrassment to my former employers in a very public way. Having your own view points is of course the right of any human being.

          As an example, when I first moved here I worked for a non profit. The director of HR got very drunk at a large, well attended conference. He proceeded to mock his wife (who was in attendance) and made passes at attendees. He was fired. He embarrassed the association. To me this is the same type of offense. Derbyshire embarrassed NR to the point that he was putting their brand into jeopardy. He can spew his racists rants as much as he wants. There are plenty of people that will have no issue with what he writes or believes. A mainstream conservative magazine shouldn’t be among them. World Net Daily will have no problem printing his racists views. They do it all the time.

          • fuzislippers 1:10 PM on 04/12/2012 Permalink | Reply

            Wait a minute, he didn’t publish this on NRO. But NRO said it reflected on them (their choice, as I’ve repeatedly said). So anything, ANYTHING, I write reflects on my employer. It’s not apple and oranges at all. Not even close.

            • just a conservative girl 1:17 PM on 04/12/2012 Permalink | Reply

              You are not a professional writer. He is. His entire body of work follows him.

              • fuzislippers 2:24 PM on 04/12/2012 Permalink | Reply

                That’s just absurd.

                • just a conservative girl 2:45 PM on 04/12/2012 Permalink | Reply

                  How so? If an educator such as yourself does something in the realm of doing that job, no matter what it may be, that is something that will reflect on your ability to do your job. It will follow you throughout your career. Say you (not you, but you generally) gives a bad grade that isn’t deserved for a personal reason, that is something that another employer has the right to use in keeping you in their employ. It reflects on them as an institution as well.

                  How would that be different for a writer? Why would a mainstream magazine want a person who loudly proclaims themselves to be a racist, and that is what he did, want them to work for them? He made a choice. Now he has to live with the ramifications of that choice. He cannot be trusted to write on issues fairly because he looks at almost 13% of the population as stupid and violent. They publish his work moving forward it reflects on them.

  • just a conservative girl 10:33 AM on 02/09/2012 Permalink | Reply
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    CPAC Day One – Part 1 

    The security is overwhelming. I have never seen it like this. They are checking each and every pass at the door for every speaker and event. That has not happened in the past. I guess they are taking the occupier protests seriously and doing their best to protect the speakers and the attendees. I am sure that they have had to hire additional people.

    AFL-CIO has decided to up the game and has rented rooms here, so it will be impossible to throw them out, as they are guests. Lovely.

    I just met Victoria Jackson from SNL fame. I ran into Stacy from the Other McCain and The DaTech Guy earlier this morning. They were both telling me I need to support Santorum.

    Santorum stickers are everywhere. He seems to have a great deal of support here. I would venture to say he could win the straw poll.

    Romney has a plan to use this conference to “woo” conservatives. Good luck with that venture.

    The Citadel has 31 cadets here. Nice to see people who not only willing to serve in the military, but also politically active at such a young age.

    Jim DeMint gave a great opening speech. I believe that CSPAN covers the event and will have videos.

    Herman Cain’s bus is here. I have not yet seen Mr. Cain himself, but the bus is at least here. He is due to speak after 4 today.

    The blogger bash is tonight, that should be a good time.

    It is still early, so not much more to report.

    But, I have to say, I always love it when conservatives are in town. They are in short supply in this neck of the woods.

     
  • just a conservative girl 9:13 AM on 12/14/2011 Permalink | Reply
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    So, Christine O’Donnell Officially Endorses Romney for President 

    Does this come as a surprise to you?  It doesn’t to me.  From day one when this woman came onto the national scene I have not liked her nor did I trust her.  I took a great deal of flak for saying so.  Maybe I wasn’t so far off.  The true blue Tea Party darling (whom they never bothered to vet before they jumped on her bandwagon) picks the least conservative of the crew we have left.

    “It was not an easy decision because I too think any of our candidates would make a great president and a great candidate going against Barack Obama,” O’Donnell said. “But I think there are certain tie breakers and I know that in making my decision I might be hurting some people but I think infrastructure and executive experience are important, and for that reason I’m endorsing Mitt Romney.”

    Would Huntsman make a good president too?  She has previously stated this:

    “I hope the fact that I stood up to the liberal establishment within my own party gives me the bona fides among conservatives to say this,” she said. “I find the tone and nastiness of some of the things circulating around the Internet about Romney extremely offensive.

    What things are those Christine?  The fact that he burdened the people of his own state with the highest insurance premiums in the country? Or maybe that hospitals there are going broke due to the mandates and the lack of funding.  Could it be that people in MA now have an average time of 23 days to get a doctor’s appointment.  Do you find it offensive that people are reporting that RomneyCare funds abortions and illegals?  I know I do.

    Christine has offered to go out and stump for Gov. Romney.  Oh my, what a treat.  I wonder if she will advise Romney to leave more than $1 million in the campaign coffers like she did.  Of course he doesn’t then file for the next elected office so he can use that money like she has done.

    Christine, why don’t we call this what it is?  A blatant attempt to get a seat at the table of a Romney administration, because you will never get elected to any office in Delaware on your own with your constant cries of being victimized and your somewhat casual relationship with the truth.

    H/T to The Other McCain. 

     
  • just a conservative girl 4:05 PM on 10/24/2011 Permalink | Reply
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    Reason #14,965 to Home School 

    It seems that New York City has decided it needs to do something about the levels of sexually transmitted disease and unwanted pregnancies.  While the horse has long left that barn, in their infinite wisdom, they have decided to require sex ed to all public school students.  Students will get one semester in six or seventh grade and again at nine or tenth grade.  While I feel that it is important to talk to your children about sex and the dangers of pregnancy and STD’s, it is the graphic nature of these discussions that are very objectionable.


    * Kids ages 11 and 12 sort “risk cards” to rate the safety of various activities, including “intercourse using a condom and an oil-based lubricant,’’ mutual masturbation, French kissing, oral sex and anal sex

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    We are going to be teaching 11 year olds about anal sex?  That is considered a good idea?  While I fully understand kids are by nature curious, this is not something that a stranger should be talking to our children about.  


    But, it gets better.  The high schoolers will be involved in pseudo field trips that include:

    * High-school students go to stores and jot down condom brands, prices and features such as lubrication.

    * Teens research a route from school to a clinic that provides birth control and STD tests, and write down its confidentiality policy.

    Just what I want, my teen being ordered to shop for condoms and a good route to a clinic that will give my child birth control pills without my consent.  But I would have to say the topper is:

    * Teens are referred to resources such as Columbia University’s Web site Go Ask Alice, which explores topics like “doggie-style” and other positions, “sadomasochistic sex play,” phone sex, oral sex with braces, fetishes, porn stars, vibrators and bestiality

    .Today on Go Ask Alice, the topics include oral sex and non latex condoms and easing orgasms for women.  Just the things I would want my teenager daughter to learn from someone who doesn’t love her or know her as well as her mom does.  The department of Ed says that they are stressing that abstinence is the only way to avoid STD’s pregnancy.  That seems pretty obvious to me from the workbooks!!  A Child psychologist is concerned about the teaching methods that are going to be used:

    “Kids are being told to either abstain or use condoms — that both are responsible, healthy choices,” said child and adolescent psychiatrist Miriam Grossman, author of “You’re Teaching My Child What?”
    The DOE “relies on latex,” she said.
    But Grossman argues that the books minimize the dangers that pregnancy can still occur with condom use, and that viruses such as herpes and HPV live on body parts not covered by a condom.

    Parents will be allowed to opt their child out on the prevention part of the course, but the part that they learn what “doggie style” is, is mandatory.  Well yee ha, ride ’em cowboy.  


    Lovely.

    H/T to The Other McCain  

     
    • SignPainterGuy 7:23 PM on 10/24/2011 Permalink | Reply

      I have to wonder how I made it through life without the advantages of all this PC and oh-so-well-meaning nanny state education. I barely remember High Screwel sex-ed; it wasn`t much more than simple drawings of the various parts and pieces and basic mechanics of the process and the admonition that, IF we were going to have sex, use a condom !
      My education at home was truly minimal as well. I was 12ish, visiting my Grandparents at the farm. I stayed at the barn all I could or somewhere outside. One day, two of my Uncles and a vet. showed up and led a cow into a narrow stall. I witnessed an artificial insemination. I thought it was cool as whiz and more than a little bit gross ! After it was over and we all walked back to the house, Mom was waiting at the yard gate and dragged me off to a private place. She said Grandma had demanded that Mom hurry down to the barn and get me before I saw what was going on; I had no business seeing THAT ! Mom told her that I`d learn eventually and she`d talk to me later. Well, here it came ! “Do you know what they were doing ?” “Yeah, they made the cow pregnant.” “OK then.”
      That is the extent of my “official and home” sex-ed.

      • just a conservative girl 3:19 PM on 10/25/2011 Permalink | Reply

        I don’t know how old you are, but that is sad. It is a difficult topic, but one that has to be broached with our children. Very few, if any, parents are able to pull off knowing where they are every minute of every day. But I do think that most parents have gotten better about discussing these topics. Maybe kicking and screaming, but talking nonetheless. I just don’t like the school system discussing these topics. I should get to decide what my child is ready to hear, not some nameless board of people that I have never met.

        • SignPainterGuy 5:14 PM on 10/25/2011 Permalink | Reply

          Born in `53, Class of `71, I still see the “parts and pieces” and the basic process of procreation to be a normal and acceptable study in Biology class. It`s the nuances of “making love” in a married situation that should be taught at home or a parent approved, supervised “sex-ed class” (do those actually exist ?)

          My Daughter was just 6 I think when she witnessed a cat giving birth in a yard flower bed. We all made a mad dash for a box and towels just in time for #2 of 5. My Daughter got a big chunk of her ed. right then. The next big step came on the farm when she was 9ish. My uncle got a call from a neighbor alerting him that his pregnant cow was in distress. I`ll never forget her eyes when she saw the calf`s feet protruding as my uncle led the cow to the barn stall and then watched as he and I winched the breach-birth calf into the world. I`d “helped” when our Daughter was born, one of the most exciting and special times of my life, but the birth of the calf, while Miss Big Eyes watched, was indescribable ! A shared moment I`ll never forget !

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