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  • just a conservative girl 9:56 PM on 09/19/2011 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , gardasil, , , vaccines   

    Michele Bachman’s Candidacy is Now Over 

    Michele Bachman has decided to use the Gardasil issue to hammer Governor Perry on.  While I am in full agreement with the congresswoman on the fact he did this by executive order.  Bad governor, bad.  I am also in agreement to point out the fact that he received some financial benefit from Merck, the manufacturer of the vaccine, in the form of campaign contributions.  What I don’t agree with is her continued claims that the vaccine caused at least one case of mental retardation. 

    In her latest statement during a presser today she says:

     “All I was doing is relaying what a woman had said, I relayed what she said. I wasn’t attesting to her accuracy. I wasn’t attesting to anything.”

    This is disturbing on quite a few levels.  She is admitting that she didn’t bother to fact check this statement before she made it. 

    I realize that there are many people in our country that have very strong feelings against vaccines.  I personally was talking to a woman last week who told me that flu shots are designed to kill you slowly, so she refuses to get one.  Jenny McCarthy has been very outspoken about her belief that her son’s autism was a result of his childhood vaccines.  But the fact remains that people who believe this are considered to  be on the “fringe”.  Most people in this country will need a great deal more proof before they jump on the no vaccine bandwagon.  I am making no judgement either way.  But, the no vaccine crowd is considered a fringe group. 

    I live in a state where Gardasil is “mandatory”.  The reason that is made mandatory is so that it will be covered by most insurance policies.  There is an opt out for the parents.  The numbers in this state have shown that most parents are not getting the vaccine.  Less than 20% of parents in Virginia have decided to give the shot to their child.  I personally believe that an opt out is the way to go.  It gives parents the choice. 

    Congresswoman Bachmann making the statement was bad enough, but she kept repeating it for days and refusing to back away from the comment gives me a great deal of pause about what type of leader she will be.  I like most of the Congresswoman’s message.  I have met her on a few occasions and she was very gracious.  But that isn’t enough.  We are at a crossroads in this country.  The next election quite literally will be deciding which way this country decides to go.  Are we going to become a nation where more and more people are dependent on the government, or are going to start the long road back to constitutional principles? 

    This country is in desperate need of a strong leader with principles.  One that can admit when things are not working and change course.  Congresswoman Bachmann has shown she is not that leader.  It is time for her to wrap it up and get back to her job as congresswoman.

    • Teresa Rice 11:06 PM on 09/19/2011 Permalink | Reply

      I don’t understand why she has made this such a big issue or has been obsessing on this issue. There are much more important issues on the table like immigration and the economy. I am not saying that the Gardasil issue isn’t worthy of discussion but I just think she’s blowing the whole situation out of proportion. I especially don’t like the fact how she brushed aside Perry’s “I’m sorry” statement. I mean what if she would happen to make a mistake and said I’m sorry?

      • just a conservative girl 11:17 PM on 09/19/2011 Permalink | Reply

        The really confusing part Teresa is that she has him on the executive order part and the Merck donations. She muddied the waters so much with that statement that people won’t even remember that part of the story. It just makes me scratch my head in disbelief.

        It really makes me doubt her leadership abilities.

        • fuzislippers 3:57 AM on 09/20/2011 Permalink | Reply

          Agreed. She did fine in the debate, may have even gained some ground. But all this has eclipsed that. She’s done.

    • zillaoftheresistance 10:00 AM on 09/21/2011 Permalink | Reply

      I’m with y’all, she went about it the wrong way. I don’t know if Gardasil can make offspring retarded, and clearly neither does she, but Gardasil HAS caused serious adverse reaction in some young girls, a few of who have even died from it. She should have stuck to facts, not rumors, like the fact that the thing had not been tested for very long for possible negative effects before it was implemented in addition to all the other stuff.
      My grandma survived Polio, and endured horrible teasing even from her own father because she had to wear those “Forrest Gump” style leg braces. My great uncle had Polio too, and he spent his entire life paralyzed from the waist down because of it. I vaccinate my kids, but I will not subject them to experimental vaccinations tat have no documentation of long term effects. I declined the h1n1 vaccine because it was not properly tested before being given to the public and I didn’t buy into the hysteria over that flu strain anyway.
      You can’t catch HPV the way you can other diseases that immunizations exist for, it is only transferred through sexual contact. Not all strains of HPV cause cancer or are even permanent and the Gardasil does not protect against all the strains of HPV that have been linked to cancer, so you are giving your child a potentially dangerous vaccine that has not been tested for long term effects that may not even do what it is supposed to do anyway, which may give your child a false sense of security and reduce the likelihood of resisting risky behavior.
      I would much prefer to see the candidates confront Rick Perry for his islamocoddling, which is a far greater danger to this country than HPV or Gardasil.

      • fuzislippers 5:40 PM on 09/21/2011 Permalink | Reply

        But that’s the thing, Zilla, it’s not about HPV or Gardasil. It’s about the role of government, once she left that, she lost.

      • just a conservative girl 8:07 PM on 09/21/2011 Permalink | Reply

        Under what Perry had done you wouldn’t have been forced to give your daughter the shot, you could have opted out. Which is perfectly fine, the problem is that he did with executive order. That is what she should have concentrated on instead of going off on some tangent that makes her sound nutty.

  • Jill 12:47 PM on 02/03/2011 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , vaccines   

    Pertussis vaccine: It’s what you know that ain’t so 

    Writing for City Journal, Paul Howard and James R. Copland examine The Whooping Cough’s Unnecessary Return. This is interesting:

    Parental concerns about vaccine safety are mostly wrongheaded. Plaintiffs’ lawyers, eager to translate junk science into jury awards, have long spread misinformation about the dangers of vaccination. They’ve been especially successful among the affluent and well-educated, presumably because those groups have greater access to vaccine pseudoscience. [emphasis added]

    No surprise there. We all know pseudo-educated adults who pick up bits of information here and there, accept what fits with their prejudices, fears, and superstitions, and never, ever seem to question the source or examine the evidence. This is a failure (one among many) of our so-called educational system, as well as a tribute to the human propensity to believe what one wants to believe. Objectivity is something that doesn’t come naturally to most humans. It needs to be taught and practiced.

    But ignorance can be deadly. The very young are more likely to die from pertussis and have done so in California and elsewhere. Even among the vaccinated, immunity (never 100%) wanes over time. A vaccine for kids 11 and older, and for adults, is available.

    Related, also in City Journal: The Virus of Hysteria, a review of the book, Deadly Choices: How the Anti-Vaccine Movement Threatens Us All, by Paul A. Offit.

    Also related, our own run-in with pertussis last spring.

    • zillaoftheresistance 9:02 AM on 02/04/2011 Permalink | Reply

      I’ve gotten a lot of grief from people who think they know what’s best for MY kids, but I did my own research and decided that the benefits outweigh the risks. My children get vaccinated. I just don’t do flu shots, the over-hyped and under-tested H1N1 shots or anything experimental (even though the pediatrician’s office offered to pay us to let our kids be guinea pigs). My grandmother and my uncle both survived polio, my grandmother had those Forrest Gump style leg braces and her father cruelly made fun of her, but she was lucky, many did not survive polio or, like my dear uncle, ended up permanently paralyzed. My kids get vaccinated against diseases which are debilitating and deadly. People think that because measles, mumps and other such things are rare that they don’t need to immunize their kids, but they are rare BECAUSE we vaccinate! There has been a marked uptick in these things since more people have opted out of immunizations. And like you said, some vaccines wear out with time, o an unvaccinated populace puts us ALL at risk.

  • Jill 3:50 PM on 06/08/2010 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: , vaccines   

    Whooping it up, coast to coast 

    But not in a fun way. This is OT but might be news you can use.

    Whooping cough, a.k.a. pertussis, may be on the rise. LA Times:

    In California, there have been 584 cases of whooping cough, also known as pertussis, confirmed between Jan. 1 and May 31. That is three times as many cases as during the same time period last year, when 190 cases were confirmed, according to Ken August, a spokesman for the state’s Department of Public Health.

    The illness can cause adults to experience severe spasms of coughing that, if left untreated, can last three or four months. Infants are most vulnerable, as infection can cause death.

    And here on the opposite coast, my vaccinated children are taking turns whooping. I spent most of yesterday finagling antibiotics for everyone in the house. It was harder than it should have been, considering that my daughter’s test came back positive.

    Antibiotics will kill the bacteria, keeping the disease from spreading, and may mitigate symptoms if caught early, but nothing has been found that will treat the full-blown cough, which may last for weeks or even months. In the paroxysmal phase, coughing often ends in breathlessness, choking, and vomiting. The pertussis vaccine is nowhere near 100% effective and the immunity it confers wanes over time. A booster is now available for older kids and adults.

    More fun facts: One test for pertussis involves sticking a swab way, way up your nose. (My kids submitted like troopers. I couldn’t watch.) The culture can take up to 14 days to grow, which allows plenty of time for more people to get infected.

    I suspect that part of the uptick in recorded cases in CA is due to increased awareness among doctors. I’ve talked to a few lately and only one was well-versed on the illness. In my experience, except in a publicized outbreak as in California, pertussis isn’t on the radar of most medical professionals. They’re looking for asthma, bronchitis, croup, hay fever, and pneumonia. But not pertussis. They may have never tested for it or treated it. Since people with pertussis appear well when they aren’t coughing, and in the early stages seem to have nothing more than a common cough or cold, they are unlikely to get tested. The magic words are “known exposure.” That gets the doctor’s attention.

    Forewarned is forearmed.

    Read all about pertussis here.

    • Obi's Sister 6:08 PM on 06/08/2010 Permalink | Reply

      Will ObamaCare cover it?

    • rubyslipperblog 7:20 PM on 06/08/2010 Permalink | Reply

      I hope your kids recover quickly. There must be a mother badge of honor for this. I know from experience that convincing doctors to think outside their normal diagnostic box is not easily accomplished. It is good that you posted this, forewarned is forearmed as you said.

    • Quite Rightly 10:06 PM on 06/08/2010 Permalink | Reply

      Very sorry to hear about your kids’ whooping, Jill. It’s no picnic. Thanks for the update on the waning immunity conferred by the vaccine.

    • backyardconservative 10:12 PM on 06/08/2010 Permalink | Reply

      Take care.

    • pjMom 12:00 AM on 06/09/2010 Permalink | Reply

      Wasn’t this your suspicion a month ago? A mother’s intuition… I’m glad you persuaded the uncurious docs to test, but I’m flabbergasted that you had to finagle for abx for the whole family. Hope everyone recovers quickly!

      • Jill 8:06 AM on 06/09/2010 Permalink | Reply

        Thanks, guys. It would be ever so much worse with little ones. Thank goodness my kids are older and can handle it better.

        Yes, pj. I brought #3 son to the doctor in a panic after the first whoop. But I had no evidence that he had been exposed. I thought my friends had it but there was no test to back it up. I wish I had insisted he be tested then. But the tests are either poorly executed or not too accurate for other reasons and I didn’t push it hard enough. #3 son ended up with a really mild case but he gave it to #4 daughter who got it bad, though I think she’s past the worst. Now it seems #2 son has it.

        And to top it off, the guy sitting next to husband at work is coughing up a storm, and has a fan on his desk that blows it all my husband’s way. >:-(

        Thanks for the sympathy. I’ll stop venting now.

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