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Shame on you Mr. Cain – Shame on you
Today, Herman Cain made a return visit to Fox News Sunday. During his interview with Chris Wallace Mr. Cain invoked a liberal talking point. Mr. Cain wrongly believes that Murfreesboro has the right to deny permits to build a Mosque.
Our Constitution guarantees separation of church and state
Oh, really Mr. Cain? Where in the Constitution does it say that? Mr. Cain am I safe to presume that you feel it is OK for the ACLU to continue its assault on Christmas celebrations? Because this is the exact same talking point that is used to stop Christmas trees being put up in town squares across the country. This is the same talking point that allows someone other than the student to decide what they say in their valedictorian speech. This is the same talking point that liberals have been using for close to century to deny the fact that the founding fathers wanted to create a country where ALL were allowed to worship openly, publicly, and how they so choose.
If I want the right to stand up and defend this right against the assaults to faith I see coming from the left, then I must, in good conscience, stand up against the very same assault that I see coming from the right. One of the great things about this country is that you are free to or free not to worship.
This statement is nothing more than fear; fear of radical Islam. Radical Islam is something to fear. Radical Islam does exist in this world. There is such a thing as creeping Sharia. But, for a potential presidential nominee to stand up and display this type of broadbrushing of an entire population of people in this country boggles the mind. This statement is basically saying that every Muslim in this country has been radicalized. This statement is wrong, ignorant, and just downright stupid. I know Muslims that came to this country to escape the extremism that they witnessed in their home countries. They came to this country to be free to worship as they chose to, not the way groups like the Taliban, Hamas and Hezbollah were trying to tell them they had to worship. They are no more likely to strap a bomb on themselves in the name of Allah than I am.
The last thing we need is yet another president that doesn’t understand what is in the Constitution or is willing to pervert it in order to justify a unconsitutional stance. We have had plenty of those and that is one of the reasons that we are in the mess that we are in.
Go here and read some accounts of a conservative who lives in that community. If we allow fear to change who we are as a country and as a people, the terrorists have won. I stand with the Constitution. I hope you will join me.
SignPainterGuy, 
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Teresa Rice 2:38 PM on 07/17/2011 Permalink |
If there is evidence of terrorism or creeping Sharia in that community I wish that he had been more specific and named an example of it not being just an issue about Muslims being free to worship but he didn’t do that. I was a Cain supporter at the beginning of his candidacy but the more he speaks the more I become unimpressed with him.
just a conservative girl 3:16 PM on 07/17/2011 Permalink |
To me this has nothing to do with Islam. This has to do with a blatant disregard for the constitution. If there are problems with radical Islam that then becomes a law enforcment/national security issue. I cannot support someone who makes a statement like this and not even realize what he is saying is a liberal talking point designed to take our freedom to worship. No thanks. Next!!!!
SignPainterGuy 4:53 PM on 07/17/2011 Permalink |
You are of course correct about the constitution. It states clearly to me that the state will stay out of the biz. of the church, not that the church / religious people must stay out of gov. Herman Cain is mistaken, very mistaken and perhaps needs some time in re-education. He gets so much else right, it`s a shame he missed this point so badly. He doesn`t strike me as “hard headed”, he can be corrected. I`m not prepared to give up on him yet !
silverfiddle 5:26 PM on 07/17/2011 Permalink |
His reasoning is tendentious, but I don’t believe it’s shameworthy.
He makes a distinction between the religion of Islam, and the political movement that ends up jamming its own special laws down the throats of societies who want no part of that.
Regardless, I share your constitutional stance. I like Mr. Cain, but he’s showing us the downside of a non-politician running for high office.
fuzislippers 10:30 AM on 07/18/2011 Permalink |
I’ve never been a Cain fan, and this latest episode of him stepping in it highlights the main reason: he’s not presidential, and he doesn’t understand the Constitution (he’s already shown this a couple times, most recently saying that gun control is a state issue). This is just the latest, not the worst, of his bizarre statements. Communities can decide they don’t want a prison or a strip club or a Wal-mart; they cannot decide that they will ban a certain religion. Period. Every citizen of this country has the right to freely express their religion. Period. The government cannot restrict that (though it does, and up until recently, we’ve said nothing about it–funny how it takes a comment like this about Islam to get people really talking about religious intolerance, isn’t it?). I’d like to see this same outrage every time a Christian is told s/he cannot say a prayer (even silently) on public school property, every time a Christian is told that Christmas is offensive, every time a Christian is told that saying the word “God” is punishable and/or banned. Let’s hear some of that, too, while we’re all agreeing that Cain is wrong.
SignPainterGuy 12:23 PM on 07/18/2011 Permalink |
We have a conundrum here. We`re not talking about a “religion” willing to operate peacefully among the masses of believers and non-believers, we`re talking about a “death-cult” that refuses to leave non-believers alone. A death-cult that believes it is commanded by their god to convert, subjugate, or put to death, non-believers. A death-cult that offers nothing good to societies anywhere ! THEY are incompatible with our constitution and the American experiment.
Must we blindly follow our constitutional command to allow ALL religions even if one of them is covertly and overtly seeking to destroy our western way of life and conquer the entire world ? Or do you believe that is only a small percentage of islam. Zilla`s many posts on the subject teach that there is NO moderate islam; islam is islam !
I`m sure there are individuals and some groups of muslims who want to live peacefully, but eventually they will be taken to task and perhaps killed by the more radical and more powerful fundamentalist elements. And it won`t end there. Islam does not facilitate peace. PERIOD!
I agree in principal with you Fuzi and the rest of you ladies and with our Constitution, BUT this absolutely IS a special case ! Look at Great Britain and France……..it will happen here if it isn`t stopped, and I want it stopped !
It may very well be time for a Constitutional Amendment !
just a conservative girl 12:36 PM on 07/18/2011 Permalink |
The entire reason I posted this comment is because it is also an assault on Christians. This isn’t about Islam. It is about freedom to worship. It just so happens that his quote was about Islam.
S/G there are millions upon million of Muslims that have zero desire to bring Sharia to this country, have no desire to do you any harm. The radical elements must be dealt with harshly, but to paint a billion people by same broadbrush of the small percentage that is radical is short-sighted and actually causes more harm.
I can guarantee you that I have read more on radical Islam than any other blogger on this site. Hubby is a terrorism analyst. The main reason that the Europeans have had the problems that they are currently experiencing is that they don’t do a good job of assimialiting people into their culture and homeland. That is not the case in the U.S. Generally speaking we accept other cultures. Yes have had periods in our history that we have not done a great job at first. Italians being one example – but for the most part people are accepted in our society.
The most serious recent issues of homegrown terrorism have come from being radicalized on the net, not in their local mosques. If we continue down the path of labeling all Muslims as liars and terrorists, we will be the worst off for it. The far right needs to accept that.
SignPainterGuy 1:10 PM on 07/18/2011 Permalink |
Perhaps the sign painter went “house” painter and picked up an oversized brush. You are absolutely in a better position to know ! I bow to your greater knowledge.
“I`m sure there are individuals and some groups of muslims who want to live peacefully, ….” Acknowledged……
I`ve read and watched vids from converted muslims who say what I did. I`m just taking their word for it ! Far be it from me to argue with an expert !
Give it time !